Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by goldy21, May 19, 2016.
Doubt he gets drafted. For some reason his game isn't immediately attractive to the NBA guys it seems. However he will almost certainly have his choice of try-out/camp invites.
I wonder how much NBA teams were scared off by his lingering back issues.
He also may be looked at as being close to his ceiling due to lack of outstanding athletic ability. He doesn't run and jump like the NBA likes.
Even if he doesn't get drafted though he will still get a look, even if it is summer league. I'd love to see him prove them wrong. If not he goes and makes some money in Europe.
He'll need to have big performances in summer league just to make a preseason roster but he just doesn't fit the NBA mold. I've heard of lesser players making $250k+ a year in Asia. Wherever he goes, Scott will have plenty of options to make a lot of bank as a hooper.
Shoot, Poeltl's draft stock took a bit of a hit because scouts consider him "too much of a true center", so you can imagine what they think of Josh.
He'll be in the first workout for potential draftees with the Nuggets.
Here is Josh's interview with the media after his Nuggets workout:
Cliff Notes version: Teams are worried about how is athleticism will translate at the NBA level but are surprised at how well he can shoot. Right now he projects to be a PF and would like to add another 10 pounds to get to 250. He sees himself playing a more perimeter style in the NBA. Consummate professional.
If I had to compare Josh's game (and personality) to a current NBA player, it would be Tim Duncan and I think he has done very well for himself. Duncan is not athletic, he does not jump out of the gym, nor is he quick. He is quiet, unassuming, does all the hard work inside to position himself for rebounds and baskets in the paint. They both have mid range jumpers and they both shoot free throws very well. Duncan also played 4 years in college and averaged 16 pts, 12 rbs and 2 assists over his college career. I am not saying Josh has that type of ceiling! However, he does have many of the fundamentals that Duncan has. IF he goes to a place where substance over flash is valued (like a San Antonio, Indiana, Utah) he has a chance to catch on. I personally love those type of players, who lead by example. I hope he gets the opportunity to be drafted, no matter the pick, his game deserves that. If not, hopefully he chooses wisely, he could be a quality NBA player from this class.
I've never heard J40 compared to Duncan, that's really an acute observation.
Josh Scott is not European enough for the Nuggets
Ok, yes. Scott is most often compared to Tim Duncan. So with that in mind, why is the NBA seemingly so reluctant to draft Scott? Wouldn't every team want a Tim Duncan type on its squad? That's the part of this that makes no sense to me. And yes, I know he's not at the same level of Duncan, but is that all there is to it? He's too "Light" of a Tim Duncan light?
Scott is one of those guys who's NBA success is going to depend a lot on where he goes. He doesn't have the athleticism to dominate. He does have the kind of game that could be very complimentary to a team who has other guys who can dominate.
He proved in college that he could compete against the best. He played against a number of guys in the PAC12 who are were or will be high draft choices and more than held his own against them. Makes you wonder if there are a couple of teams picking later in the draft who have eyes on him and are trying to play cool to keep attention off him.
As I mentioned earlier I also wonder how much his back issues have scared teams off him. The grind of the NBA is not a good match for a bad back with the fast turnaround between games and the constant travel.
you know who Josh reminds me of? Tim Duncan.
He'll have a nice career overseas
If he can develop a real outside shot I could see him have a Channing Frye type career with a little higher ceiling
Not nearly as mobile as Frye.
The thing about comparing players to past players is it's more an indication of a similar style than pedigree.
Scott is similarly sized to Duncan going into the draft- Scott (last I heard) measured about 6'9" and 245, Duncan was 6'11" and 249 coming out of college. Both were/are seniors similarly aged.
I'm not sure how Scott's mobility compares with Duncan's, and how they each were used in their systems in college, but the production is a LOT different between the two (note: there aren't many advanced stats for Duncan, so I didn't look at those).
J40 scored a career high 16.3 ppg this year on 53.1% shooting. Duncan had 3 years where he scored more than 16.8 ppg, including his senior year when he had 20.8 ppg on 60.8% shooting.
Scott hovered around 8.4-8.8 rebounds per game his entire college career; Duncan had one season at 9.8 rebounds/game and then 3 consecutive seasons of ~12.5 rebounds per game
By the numbers, Duncan was also a superior passer in college from the center position- he upped his assist per game number every year 0.9, 2.1, 2.9, 3.2. J40 was 0.6, 0.6, 1.1, 1.8.
Finally, the biggest difference is in blocks- Duncan was an elite defender of the rim in college, averaging 3.8 blocks per game. Scott has been about half that- 1.7 BPG.
As such, I think that discrepancy in production is a very big reason why the draft stock between the two is so different. Josh can be "Tim Duncan Lite" but it's extremely "Lite". However, if J40 can have half the career of Tim Duncan, he's worth drafting and will be considered an extremely successful NBAer.
As silly as it sounds, those 2-3" are monumental when it comes to the NBA and basketball in general. Duncan is a 7 footer, even if he measures out slightly under that. It's why people still debate whether or not he's a center or a PF. While there are wing players that are Scott's height.
It allows him to impact the game so much more, commanding constant double teams, allowing him to pass out of them, defend the rim, etc. Scott would be a lottery pick if he was just a lil taller. I'm rooting for him tho, I see no reason he can't stick around in the NBA.
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