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Mac will be Vic's guest on News 4 at 6:30

A lot of concerns expressed on this board wouldn't be brought up as much if we were winning, but we're not so what's your point?
:lol: I don't ever remember this coming up during the 2007 season when Cody was the quarterback and CU was going to a bowl game. Once he started losing, then the nepotism discussion started (rightfully so). Other colleges are not negatively recruiting, due to a coaches son, who has never played a down and is slated as a slot receiver. If they are, then I highly, highly doubt it has much effect.

Didn't seem to matter with Ricky's son a UCLA. If we are really that worried about other School's negatively recruiting CU, due to the coaches son playing slot receiver, then we have a ton more issues with the program. Just a stupid discussion to have at this point, IMO.
 
:lol: I don't ever remember this coming up during the 2007 season when Cody was the quarterback and CU was going to a bowl game. Once he started losing, then the nepotism discussion started (rightfully so). Other colleges are not negatively recruiting, due to a coaches son, who has never played a down and is slated as a slot receiver. If they are, then I highly, highly doubt it has much effect.

Didn't seem to matter with Ricky's son a UCLA. If we are really that worried about other School's negatively recruiting CU, due to the coaches son playing slot receiver, then we have a ton more issues with the program. Just a stupid discussion to have at this point, IMO.

When we prove we can recruit talented WRs with Jay on the team, then I'll believe it has no impact. The results in the year and a half since he signed with CU have been laughable.

You don't think there was criticism at UCLA over Ricky's son? Still, just because you made it home safe that one time you weren't wearing a seatbelt doesn't mean it was a good idea.
 
If a school is depending on Jay to down play CU...they've got ****ty salesmen if that's an issue they're gonna recruit against


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Call this a hunch, but I could see Jay Mac taking over punt return duties at some point to give Spruce a break.
 
When we prove we can recruit talented WRs with Jay on the team, then I'll believe it has no impact. The results in the year and a half since he signed with CU have been laughable.

You don't think there was criticism at UCLA over Ricky's son? Still, just because you made it home safe that one time you weren't wearing a seatbelt doesn't mean it was a good idea.

Does Shay Fields count?

The crux of your argument is a clear spurious relationship. We are struggling to recruit blue chip players at all positions, yet you wrongly point to the cause being Jay MacIntyre and focus solely on WRs. This is just terrible logic to build your argument on.
 
After listening to Lombardi in the mornings, I have come to the conclusion he is hackneyed, clueless and misinformed. I put him just a hair below Drew Soicher on the annoying scale.
 
If CU was winning, this would not be brought up. Just as with the Hawkins.

If CU were winning, Bohn would not have hired MacIntyre as a rebuild specialist. In this hypothetical, Jay MacIntyre could be used however 4th year HC Jon Embree saw fit, and the locker room would be free of potentially ugly daddy ball issues.

So, yeah, I agree with you.
 
If a school is depending on Jay to down play CU...they've got ****ty salesmen if that's an issue they're gonna recruit against


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Ah yes, the "we're such a dumpster fire this should hardly make a difference" excuse - good call.

Does Shay Fields count?

The crux of your argument is a clear spurious relationship. We are struggling to recruit blue chip players at all positions, yet you wrongly point to the cause being Jay MacIntyre and focus solely on WRs. This is just terrible logic to build your argument on.

Jay signed at the 11th hour, after we had already landed Fields, so no he doesn't count.

Jay is not the sole reason we are struggling to recruit, but we have enough working against us already and have zero margin for error. This is a handicap, no matter how small, that we just don't need IMO.
 
Ah yes, the "we're such a dumpster fire this should hardly make a difference" excuse - good call.



Jay signed at the 11th hour, after we had already landed Fields, so no he doesn't count.

Jay is not the sole reason we are struggling to recruit, but we have enough working against us already and have zero margin for error. This is a handicap, no matter how small, that we just don't need IMO.

What the hell are you talking about? You completely missed the point.


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I love all the negative opinions about Jay Mac and whether we should have recruited him or not and no one has seen him play.
 
When we prove we can recruit talented WRs with Jay on the team, then I'll believe it has no impact. The results in the year and a half since he signed with CU have been laughable.

You don't think there was criticism at UCLA over Ricky's son? Still, just because you made it home safe that one time you weren't wearing a seatbelt doesn't mean it was a good idea.
I do agree we need to recruit better at the WR position. I think Jay Mac being on the team has zero, to little affect on this issue. I just think this debate is pointless at this point in time. It may turn out to be an issue, but way to early to tell. We've seen a small sample of what good recruiters can do on the recruiting trail, so far this year. That has a bigger affect on recruiting, than a second string slot receiver, who happens to be related to the head coach.
 
When we prove we can recruit talented WRs with Jay on the team, then I'll believe it has no impact. The results in the year and a half since he signed with CU have been laughable.

You don't think there was criticism at UCLA over Ricky's son? Still, just because you made it home safe that one time you weren't wearing a seatbelt doesn't mean it was a good idea.
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You're both seeking studs?

Studs with influential fathers.

I'm coming around. If every coach at CU were forced to recruit their child and then fund a scholarship as a concession, CU could field a men's lacrosse team.
 
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Look no further!

I found a burrito stud:

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What we kind of lose sight of is that Jay Mac was the 8th rated signee by Rivals out of a class of 21 guys. Completely legitimate signee who is likely to be productive as a RS-freshman. If we weren't all still suffering from PHSD (Post Hawkins Stress Disorder), we wouldn't have made much of this signing other than it being a good sign that HCMM is committed to staying here long-term.

Nik, I'm curious how much this had to do with him being Mac's son. I've seen time and time again, players with famous/important dads getting overrated on the recruiting sites. Jack Elway, Del Rio, P-diddy, etc...
 
Nik, I'm curious how much this had to do with him being Mac's son. I've seen time and time again, players with famous/important dads getting overrated on the recruiting sites. Jack Elway, Del Rio, P-diddy, etc...

Ah yes, the famous Mike MacIntyre. Right next to P-Diddy and John Elway.

Jay Mac is a quality WR, will be very useful in short yardage situations. Far better hands than DD, hopefully he can get to DD's level of blocking. He's certainly worth his scholarship more than Yuri Wright ever will be.
 
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Nik, I'm curious how much this had to do with him being Mac's son. I've seen time and time again, players with famous/important dads getting overrated on the recruiting sites. Jack Elway, Del Rio, P-diddy, etc...

All I know on this is that no one from Rivals travels to Colorado to look at players. If they don't see them at a camp, they're just going off of highlights except for any notes sent in by Adam Munsterteiger. Adam was very high on Jay Mac during the recruiting process despite having to project from QB to WR. He has been even higher on Jay Mac since he has seen him practice with the Buffs. Apparently, he has some wiggle, great field awareness and catches everything near him.
 
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