CVilleBuff
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I should also add that the bond between UVA and UNC is very strong. Stronger than many outsiders would recognize.
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Maryland and Rutgers heading to the Big 10 on Monday.
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I should also add that the bond between UVA and UNC is very strong. Stronger than many outsiders would recognize.
ScottyBuff
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If the Big Ten was truly able to land UVA and UNC then I would pat myself on the back:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/375235-jim-delaney-size-12-or-16-footprint
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/375235-jim-delaney-size-12-or-16-footprint
Talk is now about UVA and GT heading to the Big 10:
Josh Carpenter @JoshCarpenter89 What I've heard, too. RT @jim_utter: And more ACC teams to come RT @JoshCarpenter89: UVA and Georgia Tech to the Big 10 Monday?
Josh Carpenter @JoshCarpenter89 What I've heard, too. RT @jim_utter: And more ACC teams to come RT @JoshCarpenter89: UVA and Georgia Tech to the Big 10 Monday?
Matador
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The big 12 breaks before the acc. Big 12 has lousy tv markets outside of texas and kc and they geographically are easier to swallow up. Texas and tcu or houston to pac 12 if we expand. Or texas and kansas. If we go to 16 could be texas houston kansas tcu and maybe, big maybe, oklahoma. Its only about tv revenue and thats it besides academic fit. There isnt anything else that matters in this game. Everyone goes to 16 eventually but pac 12 and big 12 get there last. It sucks as a fan of football and the regular season but lots of people will be pumped for playoffs etc. i think its all cyclical too. At some point we will see conferences get smaller again.
More than 16? That's just ridiculous. At that point its two leagues with a cross scheduling agreement and a pooled TV deal. If leagues are really going that big I suppose the Big 12 could kick WVU and TCU to the curb and merge those 8 with the PAC, but that would mean we're kicked back to the plains schools. Plus Dodd's would never give up his "precious" (LHN).
Go bigger than 16 and Delaney is essentially making a play for BTN to be ESPN Jr for college sports. Curious if the Big 12 is going to gobble up the ACC leftovers, I can't imagine the Big 12's tv model is going to look all that appealing to any schools not named Texas compared to what the BIG and the SEC will pull in with network deals. Every ACC team with a pulse is going to be fighting for spots in those two leagues with the Big 12 likely a distant 3rd in appeal.
superdeluxe
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Big 12 has a GoR, The ACC doesn't.
superdeluxe
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CVilleBuff
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Most of the smoke must be coming from the Georgia Tech sites (if they have any, most GT fans are like 95 years old), because I'm a regular observer of UVA sites and aside from an occasional mention of it, things are very very quiet right now. Maybe too quiet. Littlepage isn't exactly what I'd describe as they most proactive guy out there, but if he legitimately fears for the ACC he'll make a move. His public statement a few days ago was to the contrary, but we know how that goes. UVA was also one of the schools that voted against Louisville joining. UVA's President was hired from Michigan.
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BartonBuff
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Big XII is going no where as they have a 13 year GOR which locks their TV revenue into the Big XII. So a Texas could leave but they get none of their TV revenue for 13 years... absolutely 100% a no go for anyone. It is basically a death lock on a institution to stay in the Big XII.
Depends how much teeth the GoR actually has, what if it requires a vote of 3/4's of teams to be enforced, or if half the league votes to dissolve the league, there are smaller voting blocks now withnonly 10 teams.
I'm thinking left overs at the ACC merge with or take the leftovers from the Big East after and the Sec picks off 2 more before that to get both to 16.
That leaves a 16 team B10 & SEC. A Frankenstein of the ACC/BE at 16, a so so B12, and a 12 team Pac12.
And that PAC 12 at 12 teams, or 16, still has the biggest geographic foot print with possibility the 2nd largest population area. Which means they would be "in" the playoff that would come and the ACC or B12 would be out.
That leaves a 16 team B10 & SEC. A Frankenstein of the ACC/BE at 16, a so so B12, and a 12 team Pac12.
And that PAC 12 at 12 teams, or 16, still has the biggest geographic foot print with possibility the 2nd largest population area. Which means they would be "in" the playoff that would come and the ACC or B12 would be out.
superdeluxe
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Are there actually any details/terms/fine print of this GoR? I keep on hearing all these thoughts/rumors about exit clauses/penalities this/that and the other, but no one can ever come up with the rules of it
superdeluxe
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What does geographic footprint have anything to do with it? There isn't too much going on besides Colorado and the Coast.
What I'm saying is at either 12 or 16 the PAC will never be left out when the dust finally settles. These expansions are driving at 4 super conferences then a playoff. We don't have to expand. But we probably will.
UNLV's getting facilities. Who knows?
With UNM, that's a growing state that could get a huge boon if the Virgin spacepad thing is successful.
Right now, those would be basketball expansions and I'm not sure that is the best way to go.
I was thinking about that. I guess it depends on who else is in. If for some reason they were added prior to anyone else, and it became a 14 team conference, you might see something like UNLV in the north or some such like the SEC did to Missouri.