Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by pcbuff, Feb 7, 2015.
It's an act worthy of it's own thread and way to long coming.
Problem is that Kizla loves this kind of thing. He likes to think of himself as controversial, instead he is just an a**hole.
If 3 years from now CU is 9-3 and CSU reverts to their normal historical 3-9 he will be slobbering all over CU and ignoring CSU since making fun of them when they are down doesn't move the meter anyways.
Nothing tells the story of what a horrible newspaper the Denver Post is more than the fact that Kiszla continued to be employed by that rag after the Dante Bichette incident.
What happened with Bichette? Did Kiszla offer him a blowjob?
At the time of the Mark McGwire andro scandal, Kiszla decided he'd be an investigative journalist. He got caught breaking the law by searching through Dante Bichette's locker and personal bag in hopes of finding something. Baseball Writers of America revoked his membership. Rockies banned him from the locker room. Denver Post kept him on board as a featured journalist.
"A week after the McGwire story broke, Kiszla found himself in hot water. He took the liberty of digging through then-Rockies slugger Dante Bichette's locker, finding a bottle of Andro. He was caught, causing a huge stir in the baseball community. Kiszla had his media credentials revoked, and was reportedly roughed up when he was caught rummaging where he did not belong."
I'm pretty sure that was the name of the Walrus' blog, that eventually got him dismissed from the Navy.
Here is a (long) history of Sandy's and Scott's diatribes on Wednesday and Thursday:
Scott: If you’re looking on local stories CSU is, to me, it’s just from what I’ve read, has surpassed CU in the recruiting again.
Sandy: It would seem that way…
Scott: It’s all on paper, it’s all on paper
Scott: But it seems on reports where it’s CSU and it speaks, uh uh, it speaks well of Mike Bobo that the one quarterback they were recruiting in Colora…, err, um, California
Sandy: Central Valley, yeah
Scott: Wasn’t really a highly recruited
Scott: Wasn’t really, uh, uh, a highly recruited guy. But you look at his figure, (laugh) uh, 6.-4”, what did they say, 6:-4”, 218 or sumpin’ like that
Sandy: Six Five two fifteen. You’re talking about J.C. Robles of Visalia, California
Scott: Yeah. And, and I’m sittin’ here sayin’, first of all, I like the measurements
Scott: and, and, and, the, the story that he says is when coach called him ya know something, it was real honest “listen, I don’t know anything about ya. I’m gonna watch film and I’ll just be real honest and see if, if we could, and calls him back and says “We want ya.” I, I, I thought, I, you know…
Sandy: You liked the story…
Scott: I, I liked the story and those are also diamonds in the rough that programs like CSU have to have. This kid our of California you hope in a couple of years, you know, there’s your starting quarterback at CSU for, like, 3 years.
Then blah, blah, blah about Alabama and Auburn and SEC lore.
Then, after ripping CU for it’s contract stance with CSU in which Sandy said, at 26:05,
On how RG’s comments might appear to the public:
Sandy: “Where I think they (CU) fall short is in the public relations area. Where I think they’ll get killed because it looks like, in a manner of speaking, they’re getting beat on the field, now than more regularly than they’d like to be. Overall almost constantly they’re getting beat, and by CSU in particular, a lot more often than they’d like they’re taking their ball and going home. And saying, forget even beyond staging the game on either campus, we don’t want particularly want to play these people.”
Scott: “That, that, that, was my initial take after watching that, to be honest with you. That was my initial, look, these guys are just scared of ‘em, They’re just tired of messin’ with these guys. They’re done. They don’t need anymore.”
Then referring to the diatribe the previous day and angry messages from CU fans:
Sandy: “I think there is a sensitivity up there that is excessive at times and within the administration up there, within the athletic administration, probably outstripped only by the fan reaction, and they hysteria that greeted, I thought, rather innocent comments that both us were making yesterday at the top of the show about the fact, and it was more about CSU keeping early commitments. It wasn’t even remotely a suggestion that they had outstripped CU on the recruiting trail. We drew the contrast between, in the midst of a coaching change, CSU holding onto early commitments and we made mention of one pledge (Hocakaday) that CU had lost.
In fact, in spite of all of these “experts” on our text line yesterday telling us what a sensational day CU was having, according to these, uh, services that analyze these things and rank the teams conference by conference as to how well they allegedly faired yesterday, this is Scout.com, yes, CSU was dead last in the Mountain West, Scotty, 12[SUP]th[/SUP] out of 12. GUESS WHERE CU IS IN THE PAC 12?"
Scott: “Dead last”
Sandy: “DEAD LAST! So for all of the “experts” on National Signing Day, who cite these agencies as gospel, they rated CU as dead last in it’s conference as certainly as they rated CSU dead last. And that wasn’t the point we were making to begin with. We were giving CSU, and I suppose Mike Bobo a little bit of credit under difficult circumstances for, apparently, holding on to the, uh, people they had already gotten commitments from. We made no attempt to, uh, because, at least I’ll speak for myself (Throwing Scotty under the bus, I guess) I’m not capable of making this judgment, maybe they would have been ranked 8[SUP]th[/SUP] if Jim McElwain had staid, maybe 6[SUP]th[/SUP], maybe 4[SUP]th[/SUP], maybe dead last with Jim McElwain too. Who knows?”
Then they went into CU’s “excessive sensitivity”, blah, blah, blah.
I'm one of those dreadful out-of-state alums that went to CU and then moved back to my home state so forgive my ignorance. But, what kind of messed up place is Colorado where the majority of the local media thrives on bashing the state's flagship university? I just can't fathom this happening in any other state, at least not to the extent that it does in Colorado. It's mind boggling.
Clough isn't usually that stupid. He should recognize a business decision by Rick George for what it is.
Translation: it's OK to insult CU fans (I do it all the time), but you're in a world of hurt if you insult my AD.
The problem is you have asshats like Rick Reilly and Terry Frei that went to CU but even though they are sports guys they aren't athletes so they feel entitled and felt like they were pushed away from the program while here and after. Both have **** on the program enough for me to say piss off.
****la is mad his kids didn't get in and is an angry POS that got his radio/website show taken away and is less and less respected throughout Denver. His Elway back and forth shows no one respects his garbage. That is why blogging and message boards has taken over for sports talk/writing. I would rather **** talk a closet CU basher acting as a fan since he is not paid to **** on them like ****la, Paige, Ringo and others.
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Clough should know better than the garbage he put out the other day (Didn't both Rivals and Scout rate our class ahead of Oregon State's? Does it really matter? How many stars did Russell Wilson have as a recruit? 2?). Point being-the recruiting rankings are about as valuable as preseason polls, and the fact that he's using those to bash us was pretty pathetic.
The take that pissed me off the most was the crap that Terry Frei put out on the Fan Late Night Thursday night. Calling something "the wrong thing to do" or saying "its not fair" when you make an argument essentially negates it in my mind, and it adds nothing to the discussion. If thats what he's gonna put forth, then he should shut up.
Okay that he did what he did here-but would have liked to have seen more of the take that Woelk put forth from Plati and anybody associated with CU. Is it arrogant? Sure. Is it accurate? Yes.
Since I can't repost Kiszla's "argument" with Hochman in today's paper, here is a paraphrase:
Kiszla: CU football stinks, it's recruiting class stinks, attendance stinks and RG's rant, telling csu to "get off my lawn" was to distract from that. CU thinks it's too good for csu, but with a new stadium coming, csu could have a better record and attendance than CU by 2020. If the Buffs really want to end it, csu could play legitimate teams like Nebraska in Mile High, but the series is what is best for the state. There is a better chance of the series continuing than of Mac still being here.
What is ironic about his "the series is good for the state" is his previous argument that csu should cancel the series and play legitimate teams.
Absent from the Denver media is any serious interest to promote CU as a national contender.
The narrative is to treat a MWC team as an equal to a Pac12 team .
We all get what Kiszla is doing. The old "bad guy" routine to create controversy and get people to argue with him. I had kind of given him the benefit of a doubt that he is probably a decent guy in private who doesn't really believe his own schtick. But I'm really second guessing that. I think he very well is probably an asshole who thinks he is the voice of reason and logic.
I absolutely believe that Kiszla is not in any way a decent guy. I have been peripherally aware of his childish behavior for over two decades now, and I have yet to see anything that leads me to believe that he has an ounce of integrity. I don't think I could even stand to sit and have a beer with that asshole.
Kiszla just throwing poop against the wall.
12/4/14 . Don't click b/c link to Denver Post.
"No. 2: Tell the Buffaloes to get lost.While the University of Colorado football program has stunk for a decade, delusional CU players, alums and administrators look down their arrogant noses at CSU. So here's how the Rams strike back: Cancel the Rocky Mountain Showdown as soon as possible. Colorado State doesn't need no stinking Buffs.
The new CSU athletic director should declare the Rams will go anywhere, anytime to play Nebraska, Oregon or Wisconsin, provided it's a home-and-home series with a date included at 75,000-seat Sports Authority Field at Mile High. Replace CU on the schedule with a truly elite football program that can win Colorado State respect in the national polls."
Oregon Nebraska and Wisconsin are willing to come here for a home and home against CSU... Sure thing bud.
He's quite the little hypocrite, isn't he?
Lol, Getting pounded 49-3 vs one of those teams isn't going to get them respect in the national polls.
It is laughable. Our AD asks to bring our home games to our stadium. They (CSU) says no. Our AD says this will be corrected and or the series ends. The press exposes themselves by equating CU CU to a petulant child and saying the 125th ranked class is exactly same as one ranked in the 60's. Plati defends his AD and University against twitter attacks and he's out of line. Freak in unreal.
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