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No on Tedford. No.
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
Not my favorite, but excellent recruiting and 7-5 sounds alright right about now.
Replace you?
My buddy and I went to dinner after the game. We both graduated in '05 and talked about how things were so different now. He summed it up best:
"Do you remember when we used to bitch about going 7-5? We were furious.... I'd give my left nut to go 7-5 now."
D'oh, you're right my bad.
SCB
Well-Known Member
Agree with everything Jens said. I dread going to work and having to answer the "what the **** happened" questions. I'm sick of walking up in the morning and then realizing we are a joke that is only getting worse.
Not sure I'd like Tedford. His inability to develop QBs since Aaron Rodgers has Slick written all over him. Cal has fielded some pretty good teams that seem to be snakebitten, though. They were ranked #1 overall a couple of years ago only to lose like 5 in a row to finish the season IIRC.
MINN-Buffalo
Member
My parents are Alumni at Iowa state and everybody there loves Paul Rhoads. He isn't what you could call a great catch but he turned a 2-3 game winning program to a 5-7 game winning program. He also seems to bring a fire to their game hell they beat the fuskers, longhorns, and the cowboys in 3 years. They beat their rival Iowa for now 2 years in a row. If we could get a coach like him but maybe better recruiting we could be set. It took him one season to turn a 2-10 team to a 7-6. Just saying.
I'd love to have his bad QB track record here-he coached David Carr, Joey Harrington, and Kyle Boller too. Not a great resume for developing NFL QBs (save Rodgers), but very good college QBs.
This is his 11th year at Cal and his worst season was 5-7. He was at Oregon and Fresno St prior to Cal so he should have some deep roots in west coast recruiting. Not perfect, but he'd be about as good as we could hope for IMO.
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Unleash Hell
Well-Known Member
Kirby Smart or Mark Helfrich
Curious how much of Oregon's success do people really attribute to Helfrich?
Unleash Hell
Well-Known Member
I don't know, but I am curious as to how much of Helfrich's failures here really attribute to Hawk
MINN-Buffalo
Member
I'd go with Kirby Smart because I feel he would get into the RMS rival and we could use his defense.
Alright, the Slick comparison was mean and hurtful. I take it back.
Upon further review, thanks to your boy Wikipedia, 79-48 overall. Not bad. Will take.
Braveheart
New Member
I'm surprised nobody has said this yet, but why not Tosh Lupoi?:huh:
He's a top 5 recruiter hands down (Can make an argument for tops). I'm not sure how he is as a coach, but he's produced some studs @ CAL, and their defense doesn't look as good without him. He has a very strong Pete Carroll vibe to me. His players really love him, commits love him, recruits that go elsewhere love him, he's innovative (in recruiting), he's young, and is somewhat of a big name. There's a lot of good candidates out there, but you gotta get talent into the CU program....and that's what Tosh does best. At the very worst, CU is still where their at, but they'll have way more talent for the next coach to work with.
He's a top 5 recruiter hands down (Can make an argument for tops). I'm not sure how he is as a coach, but he's produced some studs @ CAL, and their defense doesn't look as good without him. He has a very strong Pete Carroll vibe to me. His players really love him, commits love him, recruits that go elsewhere love him, he's innovative (in recruiting), he's young, and is somewhat of a big name. There's a lot of good candidates out there, but you gotta get talent into the CU program....and that's what Tosh does best. At the very worst, CU is still where their at, but they'll have way more talent for the next coach to work with.
See bolded. No way.
I thought that was why we had hired Embo and EB :huh:
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
Tedford season-by-season breakdown:
'02: 7-5 (4-4)
'03: 8-6 (5-3)
'04: 10-2 (7-1)
'05: 8-4 (4-4)
'06: 10-3 (7-2)
'07: 7-6 (3-6)
'08: 9-4 (6-3)
'09: 8-5 (5-4)
'10: 5-7 (3-6)
'11: 7-6 (4-5)
'12: 1-1
For those of you who don't remember Cal pre-Tedford, they were BAD. I mean BAD. A much longer streak of being horrendous than we're currently on.
'02: 7-5 (4-4)
'03: 8-6 (5-3)
'04: 10-2 (7-1)
'05: 8-4 (4-4)
'06: 10-3 (7-2)
'07: 7-6 (3-6)
'08: 9-4 (6-3)
'09: 8-5 (5-4)
'10: 5-7 (3-6)
'11: 7-6 (4-5)
'12: 1-1
For those of you who don't remember Cal pre-Tedford, they were BAD. I mean BAD. A much longer streak of being horrendous than we're currently on.
The year before he took over Cal won 1 game! He could have that same situation all over again! I bet he'd be giddy with excitement at the thought.
Seems like he's had a lot of support from the admin at Cal, including admissions flexibility (I think) and facilities improvements. If someone like Tedford were to come, I would hope he would demand a necessary level of support from CU admin (kind of like BZ and the practice facility). That is part of why a coach with his type of resume could really help us (in addition to coaching prowess and recruiting).
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
Didn't win their first game until the final game of the season in '01 (against Rutgers). God help us if that's the path we take heading into the Utah game
Would give my left nut for 7 wins next year...
7 wins or Fire Tedford.
Where's flukes? What kind of expectations do Cal fans have for them this year? Does another mediocre season cause his departure?
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
He's going to get his panties in a bunch, you should see him when people say they know Mike Montgomery is retiring in a year :lol: