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Protect CU's Future: Write to CU Regents before May 17 Meeting (Now May 22nd)

Buffnik

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Write to CU Regents before May 17 Meeting
We are at a tipping point for CU athletics and the university as a whole. The CU Board of Regents will decide the future with upcoming votes. Below (please forgive the length of this), I have done my best to lay out the issues and surrounding facts while presumptively stating what I believe is the general attitude of this community of CU boosters/fans. The goal is to inspire the community to email the Board of Regents so they are aware of how you feel. It is my hope that the following will be of use to people as they craft their messages and send them over the next week or so.

Part I

Brief background of the issues at hand:

1. Athletic Director Rick George (ADRG) offered Head Coach Mike MacIntyre (HCMM) a contract extension through 2021 with a total value of $16.25 million – a $3.05 million per year average over 5 years. HCMM has signed the agreement but the Regents have yet to approve. That probably sounds like a lot of money to everyone because it is a lot of money. But, relatively speaking, it’s a middling contract for a Power-5 Conference Head Coach. For 2016, 11 Pac-12 institutions reported salaries (USC did not, but Helton is estimated to earn $3.8 based on Wikipedia). HCMM ranked last in the Pac-12 in 2016.

MacIntyre then won National Coach of the Year.

This new contract would be expected to place him around 7th or 8th in Pac-12 salaries for Head Coaches. It is a middling-to-bargain deal for the marketplace when considering what a successful Power-5 HC with no NCAA infractions in his history can command. (At the top end is Alabama’s Nick Saban, who recently signed a contract for over $11 million per year.)

2. Assistant Coach Joe Tumpkin (ACJT) was accused of long-term abuse by his former girlfriend during a phone call to HCMM. HCMM reported the conversation to ADRG, who then reported to Chancellor Phil DiStefano (CPD). University policy was interpreted by CPD as not requiring that this be reported to the Office of Institutional Equity and Compliance (OIEC). This interpretation has been questioned and it has been suggested that HCMM and ADRG should have known to report directly to OIEC because that is the actual university policy.

After the accusation, ACJT was allowed to coach in the bowl game and was given additional coaching responsibilities for the game – though it should be noted that ACJT did not receive a promotion in title or a pay increase. At some point in that period between the accusation and the dismissal of ACJT, a temporary restraining order was filed by the accuser and a police investigation began. Upon ACJT not contesting the temporary restraining order and it becoming permanent, ACJT was dismissed by CU. The timeline of these events is less than 2 months with much of that time being over Winter Break and during a football recruiting dead period. The Board of Regents ordered a thorough investigation by an outside law firm and the findings are expected to be reported at this month’s meeting.

Potential outcomes of Board of Regents meeting:

1. HCMM Contract.
a. Approval.
b. Non-approval.

2. ACJT Investigation.
a. No findings of wrongdoing by HCMM, ADRG or CPD.
b. Findings of wrongdoing by one or more of the above. This could range from a minor error of the procedural variety with no harm intended nor done to a finding of gross misconduct if someone intentionally violated policy and/or deliberately attempted to cover up infractions.
c. Depending on what is revealed and the severity of any wrongdoing, if found, the Regents may take actions ranging from exoneration to a reprimand to probation to suspension to termination.

What do I think our community of CU fans/boosters want to see happen?

This answer obviously depends upon the findings of the investigation. However, the assumption that has been earned by the parties involved is that they are honorable, ethical men who may have made a procedural error or, in the case of CPD, may have made a judgment error.

With the case of CPD, that’s out of our wheelhouse in terms of what a Chancellor should be expected to know and whether the interpretation should have been obvious to someone in that position. It doesn’t appear that our community of CU fans/boosters has a strong opinion either way on what the Regents should do regarding CPD, though it does not seem in character for CPD (therefore, not reasonable for us to assume) that he intentionally and willfully violated university policies he knows well in an attempt to protect the football program from bad publicity or in order to give the football team a better chance of winning its bowl game. Whatever opinions we may have about the job performance and even the likeability of CPD, I don’t believe anyone has ever suggested that he has a “win at all costs” mentality. It’s hard to imagine that there was gross misconduct here.

I don’t believe our community has a strong opinion on what the result of the investigation should be for CPD beyond not wanting to see a punishment designed to “send a message” that’s out of balance with whatever wrongdoing is found.

Turning to ADRG and HCMM, we are talking about two gentlemen who have shown the highest of character in their job performance. They have, as the university values greatly, done things the right way without compromising integrity by taking shortcuts to on-field success. They have rebuilt the athletic department and the football program the right way, with strong foundations that can lead to long-term excellence on and off the field. Given the way they have conducted themselves (the reality of their actions and results, not just their words and promises), it is unfathomable that these men would have behaved egregiously. These are not the kind of people who would endanger an abuse survivor or protect an abuser in order to further the on-field goals of the football program. Everyone makes mistakes and no one handles everything perfectly, so while I acknowledge that some minor wrongdoing by ADRG and/or HCMM may be found, the suggestion that they might have done something egregious is so unfair as to be insulting.

Working from that point, what I believe our community wants is for the HCMM contract to be approved and for there to be required training on OIEC issues for all coaches and staffers on an annual basis going forward.

What can we do?

Given that CU has a history of over-reaction to incidents relating to the football program and a reluctance to commit to athletic excellence in support of the university’s mission, CU fans/boosters should be very concerned.

As stated in the opening, this is a tipping point.

Either CU will choose to accept and support athletics as an important driver of the university mission and the financial realities of what it takes to be successful… or,

CU will use the ACJT situation as a convenient excuse to backtrack on support for athletics and decide to become a laughingstock again.

What we can do is write to our Regents with a cc to President Bruce Benson to let them know that we care and to let them know how we feel.

Glen.Gallegos@cu.edu
Kyle.Hybl@cu.edu
Jack.Kroll@cu.edu
Irene.Griego@cu.edu
John.Carson@cu.edu
heidi.ganahl@cu.edu
Steve.Ludwig@cu.edu
Sue.Sharkey@cu.edu
Linda.Shoemaker@cu.edu
Bruce.Benso@cu.edu

Be respectful. Be factual. And write from your heart by letting them know what CU means to you, whether you’re an alumnus or a non-alumnus.
 
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Part II

Below are some facts you might choose to incorporate into your email:
These are some of the points I’ve seen brought up by concerned CU boosters/fans on Scout’s BuffStampede message board that are very well stated and don’t need me trying to re-write (so I lifted them):

o improvements toward gender equity have been made and will continue
o Champion Center improvements benefited all athletes, not just football (perhaps benefiting others more as their facilities were really bad before)
o vibrant football program funds and elevates other sports/opportunities
o athletics, whether intercollegiate, intramural, or just going for a hike are part of a well rounded student
o HCMM (and RG) are responsible for resurrecting a lost program after 10 years of futility and failed coaches
o AD pays coaches not school
o could see complaining if AD paid Leavitt what Oregon did, but they didn't.
o HCMM's salary is not high compared to other PAC-12 coaches
o being part of PAC-12 and taking payout from conference means having vibrant athletic and academic programs
o while mistakes were made in not properly reporting an abusive situation, we have not seen any evidence that these mistakes were intentional or caused any additional harm to the victim
o more probably could/should have been done to assist the victim, but even now they are still just accusations that remain to be resolved in court not by the university.
o by all reports HCMM and RG are men of high character, but no one is perfect and based on what we know the mistakes made are correctable


Another post addressed how backtracking by the Regents on CU’s commitment to athletics would have serious consequences the Regents would have to own:

This ownership would include:
  • Finding a suitable football coach after Mike MacIntyre bolts to the SEC. (Hint: the contract will be a lot more than the $3mm paid to Mac.)
  • Managing the finances of the athletic department should ticket revenues from football start to drop.
  • The care and feeding of the 3,000 donors who ponied up $100+ mm for the Champions Center. (Hint: most of this money was pledged in a 5 - 10 year window.)
  • The debt service of the $200 mm in bonds used to finance the Champions Center.

Here’s some research I did to find reputable papers and articles on the importance of success in college athletics to a university (AKA: "It's kind of hard to rally around a math class."
-- Bear Bryant on the role football plays in college life):


1. “THE BENEFITS OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS SUCCESS: AN APPLICATION OF THE PROPENSITY SCORE DESIGN WITH INSTRUMENTAL VARIABLES” by Michael L. Anderson (Cal Berkeley) – June 2012 Working Paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Statistics. http://www.nber.org/papers/w18196.pdf
· College football results for the 120 D1 programs were studied.
· “We find that winning reduces acceptance rates and increases donations, applications, academic reputation, in-state enrollment, and incoming SAT scores.”
· “Since BCS conference football teams have higher profiles, we expect that team success may have a larger impact for these schools (particularly for alumni donations), and we estimate results separately for BCS conferences.”
· “For FBS schools, winning football games increases alumni athletic donations, enhances a school’s academic reputation, increases the number of applicants and in-state students, reduces acceptance rates, and raises average incoming SAT scores. The estimates imply that large increases in team performance can have economically significant effects, particularly in the area of athletic donations. Consider a school that improves its season wins by 5 games (the approximate difference between a 25th percentile season and a 75th percentile season). Changes of this magnitude occur approximately 8% of the time over a one-year period and 13% of the time over a two-year period. This school may expect alumni athletic donations to increase by $682,000 (28%), applications to increase by 677 (5%), the acceptance rate to drop by 1.5 percentage points (2%), in-state enrollment to increase by 76 students (3%), and incoming 25th percentile SAT scores to increase by 9 points (1%).”


2. https://www.forbes.com/sites/hbswor...ess-boosts-college-applications/#205bf15a6e96

Boston College's greatest marketing campaign lasted about six seconds.

It's called the "Flutie Effect." In a 1984 game against the University of Miami, BC quarterback Doug Flutie threw a last-second "Hail Mary" pass 48 yards that was miraculously caught for a game-winning touchdown—a climactic capper on one of the most exciting college football games ever.

The play put BC on the map for college aspirants. In two years, applications had shot up 30 percent.

Ever since, marketing experts and school deans have acknowledged the power of the Flutie Effect's ability to transfer a successful collegiate athletic program into a hot ticket for admission. Georgetown University applications multiplied 45 percent between 1983 and 1986 following a surge of basketball success. Northwestern University applications advanced 21 percent after winning the Big Ten Championship in football.

Enter Chung, whose recent research paper, The Dynamic Advertising Effect of Collegiate Athletics (http://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Publication Files/13-067_99c551d6-c484-4245-9e49-964d2283cd98.pdf), shows how on-field heroics can benefit schools by increasing both the quantity and the quality of students they can expect to attract.

His findings include:
· When a school rises from mediocre to great on the gridiron, applications increase by 18.7 percent.
· To attain similar effects, a school has to either lower tuition by 3.8 percent or increase the quality of its education by recruiting higher-quality faculty, who are paid 5 percent more than their average peers in the academic labor market.
· Students with lower-than-average SAT scores tended to have a stronger preference for schools known for athletic success, while students with higher SAT scores preferred institutions with greater academic quality. Also, students with lower academic prowess valued the success of intercollegiate athletics for longer periods of time than the high SAT achievers.
· Even students with high SAT scores are significantly affected by athletic success—one of the biggest surprises from the research, Chung says.
· Schools become more academically selective with athletic success.


3. https://blogs.cornell.edu/info2040/2015/10/27/link-analysis-applied-to-the-flutie-effect/

The Flutie Effect references the phenomenon that the success of a university’s athletic program can have positive effects on seemingly unrelated aspects of a school. More specifically, in Devin and Jaren Pope’s study, they test the effect that success of a Division 1 college basketball or football team has on a school’s application statistics. They find that being in the NCAA Basketball Tournament’s field of 64 predicts a 1% increase in the number of applications the following year, the Sweet 16 a 3% increase, the Final 4 a 4%-5% increase, and winning the championship a 7%-8% increase. Similar effects were found in schools who ranked in the AP top 20 college football, and even more so for schools that won the BCS National Championship.

4. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/07/sports/ncaafootball/alabama-crimson-tide-football-marketing.html
Alabama’s football pre-eminence on television and in the postseason, along with an aggressive plan to extend the university reach beyond the state, has helped attract a more academically-minded student body in the past decade from all over the country and served as the catalyst for more than $1.7 billion in fund-raising, according to those who have engineered the explosive growth.

In the last decade, enrollment has increased by more than 55 percent, to a record 37,100 students this fall, and more than half of the students now are from out of state, another seismic shift. The acceptance rate in the last decade fell to 54 percent, from 72 percent. This year, 2,261 freshmen are enrolled in its Honors College, two and half times the number 10 years ago. Its 174 National Merit and National Achievement finalists rank Alabama among the top five public universities.


5. COLLEGE ATHLETICS: NECESSARY, NOT JUST NICE TO HAVE
http://www.nacubo.org/Business_Offi...thletics_Necessary_Not_Just_Nice_to_Have.html
by Robert J. Sternberg (administrator at Tufts DIII and then provost at Oklahoma State)

The linked article should be read in its entirety, but the sections he covers on the benefits of athletics to a university community are: Leadership Development, Spirit, Pride and loyalty, Memories, Lifetime fitness, Recruitment, Stress relief and prosocial behavior, Well-roundedness and balance, Town-gown relationships, Alumni loyalty and involvement, Advancement, Branding, and Lifelong friendships.

He includes 3 caveats of things that must be managed to avoid athletics being harmful to the university: Disparate missions, Conflicting business models, and Reputational risk.

In conclusion, he states:
"All that said, when athletics harmonize with the academic and business missions of a college or university, the effect can be hugely positive. Done right and managed properly, I think college athletics might even be seen as necessary, not just nice to have."

6. A more concise piece on the same topic Sternberg addressed: http://education.seattlepi.com/importance-college-athletic-programs-universities-1749.html

"College athletics programs represent a multibillion dollar industry and are integrally linked to school branding and reputation. And while individual sports programs -- even in Division I schools -- don’t necessarily turn a profit, the many other benefits to colleges have far-reaching implications for students, faculty and community. Athletics programs drive enrollment and heighten college profiles, often resulting in financial windfalls for the institutions that happen far away from fields and arenas."

More detail under the following sub-heads: Direct Profits, Enrollment, Branding, Long-Term Relationships
 
Part III

Last, there are issues of the CU Mission outside of what has been discussed above.

http://www.cu.edu/mission-university-colorado-guiding-principles-and-vision-statement

The role of athletics in promoting #6 of the 12 Guiding Principles for CU is particularly important:

6. Promote faculty, student, and staff diversity to ensure the rich interchange of ideas in the pursuit of truth and learning, including diversity of political, geographic, cultural, intellectual, and philosophical perspectives.

Student-athletes are more ethnically diverse than the student body in general. Likewise, the coaching and support staffs are more ethnically diverse. Not only is athletics providing opportunities at CU either through academic opportunity or good jobs to a more diverse population, but due to the public attention athletics receives… these are role models who inspire minority students, applicants, community members, and university faculty & staff.

As reported in The Edvocate (http://www.theedadvocate.org/diversity-higher-education-get-american-colleges-catch-21st-century/), one of the ways to promote student diversity at a university :

So how can colleges and universities bring in diverse students, retain them, and graduate them debt-free?

2. With athletes

And not in the way you might think, either.

This isn’t about getting more athletes on college campuses, though.

Think of what having strong minority role models can do for students. Successful people who look like the students a particular college or university is trying to graduate, and who come from a similar background, can leave a lasting impression and inspire students to similar heights.

One particular group of minority mentors that I feel should be getting even more involved in the minority recruiting and mentorship process is student athletes. Whether still athletes at the school, or alumni, this particular subset of minority mentors should play an important role in graduating other traditionally disadvantaged students.


(This goes on to discuss the success of Maurice Clarett’s mentorship program.)

In addition, there are significant gender issues (including Title IX) that are almost wholly supported by football revenues. Except for Men’s Basketball, every varsity team can be expected to lose between $1 million and $2 million a year. Additionally, non-revenue sports struggle to attract donations for facility projects that are needed to best support their development as student-athletes at CU.

As outlined by Brian Howell of the Boulder Daily Camera, the recent football facilities project had far reaching positive impacts on CU women’s sports and AD Rick George has shown great leadership in furthering the cause of women’s sports at CU. http://www.buffzone.com/cu-news/ci_30970468/buffs-making-major-strides-gender-equality

CU, while it has made great strides, still has a gender gap of almost 30 fewer scholarships granted to women student-athletes each year. If CU has a goal to close that gap while also continuing to offer more opportunities in men’s sports as part of its diversity vision, the money to do so either must be raised through Athletic Department revenues or taken from the university’s general funds.

As CU learned (painfully), you can’t get there through cuts to the Athletic Department budget. When the Athletic Department is neglected, football suffers on the field, fans don’t show up, donations lag, and every program ends up with a shoestring budget. The only way to support all programs and to have an opportunity to add new sports programs in the future is for football (and men’s basketball to a much lesser degree) to be maximizing revenue potential. That takes investment in facilities, coaches and support staff.

And on this note, it’s important to keep in mind that a large part of the AD budget is scholarship money paid to the university. More scholarships through more sports means more diversity and more revenue for the university at large.

In closing, I personally believe that the money in college sports is borderline obscene – but I try to live in the world that “is” and not be blinded by an ideological dream of what I think “should be”. In consideration of what “is” in terms of driving academic selectivity and donations, community spirit of the campus and general CU community, and promoting important university missions on diversity – the pragmatic approach is to invest in football at a level that is competitive with peer institutions.

If you agree with me on this, please take the time to email the Board of Regents and President Benson. A misstep on the upcoming votes would be a tragic mistake for CU.
 
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I encourage anyone who has points to add to do so in this thread.

It would also be helpful to people if anyone is willing to post a copy (your name redacted) of an email you have sent. Others can then use it as a template.

Thanks, everyone. Let's make sure that CU stays on the right path.
 
I think this boils down to a "revenue vs expenses" thing. I can't find that information.
 
hit your elected officials. i am not a colorado resident. we need colorado voters to contact their regents and the at-large regents. voters matter.
 
Explain your voting district
Explain your connection to CU
Explain what MM has done right, the benefits to the university
Stay away from Tumpkin issue
Don't threaten, stay positive
End with strong endorsement and encouragement to ratify contract.
Thank them for their time.

There are a few good examples (and bad ones) on other boards.
 
Nik - no surprise that you lay out the facts clearly and comprehensively.

My contribution includes heartfelt emotional reaction based on hope, trust, fairness, courage and disappointment.

Over the previous five months, the Regents and President have seemingly turtled into a legal cocoon.

MacIntyre was muffled by legal guidance. DiStefano has directed the discussion towards policy interpretation and proceeded to engage in a lengthy review by an outside law firm. Promises of transparency means sharing someone else's independent review of facts, eventually.

The natives are restless and confused.

Does university leadership stand by its high profile employees? Or are the chancellor, AD and head coach left to twist in the wind? In a competitive employment market, what is being done to ensure CU is capable of attracting, retaining, and developing talent in senior leadership positions?

Rick George has masterfully delivered a message of sustainable excellence, and exceeded all expectations by rallying several thousand donors to drive to 105, while opening State-of-the-art facilities that provide CU's student athletes with an environment in which they have every opportunity to compete and succeed at the highest levels, on the playing surface and in the classroom. Folsom magic returned with sell-outs that haven't been seen in a decade. CU has experienced the Rise under Rick George. Irrelevance has been replaced with pride.

Yet it's disappointing that the highest levels of university leadership are silent in the support of Rick George's vision of sustainable excellence.

Whether or not this is the intention, the delay in approving HCMM's contract based on a lengthy investigation appears more like guilty until proven innocent, not the other way around. What incentive should the Coach of Year have to stick around Boulder as this issue drags on and on? Is sustainable excellence only a rug in which Rick George stands upon? Is Regent Jack Kroll's campaign pitch to pull the rug out from under the athletic department closer to the heart of dear old CU's senior leadership?

What have the Regents or University President said or done to earn the trust of recruits, student athletes, alumni, fans, and donors over these past five or six months?

It takes courage to lead. Leadership means more than trusting and relying on outside counsel. (Ask United Airlines execs about the hazards of letting legal counsel dictate behavior.)

We want to trust that the Regents and the President are willing to proudly and loudly deliver a message in support of sustainable excellence, even at this time when it's also necessary to hide behind closed doors to deliberate on the politically charged issue of addressing the blight of domestic violence and sexual assault as it relates to athletics and the broader university community.
 
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When you look at Troll's campaign issues, one was that the University had paid the AD $24 million in bailout money over. 3 or 4 year stretch. I think that sort of thing is at the gist of this. How can you justify a big raise when the school is having to bail out the AD? That is not my concern. That is the Regent's concern and that is an issue that needs to be addressed.

Oh, and on the facility, I think some Regents may have forgotten that one of the reasons for a cost increase was the Universities desire for a parking garage. I'm not sure how, or by whom, that was financed.
 
When you look at Troll's campaign issues, one was that the University had paid the AD $24 million in bailout money over. 3 or 4 year stretch. I think that sort of thing is at the gist of this. How can you justify a big raise when the school is having to bail out the AD? That is not my concern. That is the Regent's concern and that is an issue that needs to be addressed.

Oh, and on the facility, I think some Regents may have forgotten that one of the reasons for a cost increase was the Universities desire for a parking garage. I'm not sure how, or by whom, that was financed.

That $24 million bailout was a direct result of allowing (in some ways causing) the football program to become the worst in the nation. It stopped making the money that it needs to in order to support a balanced AD budget. We're trying to keep them from repeating that mistake.
 
That $24 million bailout was a direct result of allowing (in some ways causing) the football program to become the worst in the nation. It stopped making the money that it needs to in order to support a balanced AD budget. We're trying to keep them from repeating that mistake.
Wasn't that money a loan anyway? Isn't the AD paying the school back?
 
Wasn't that money a loan anyway? Isn't the AD paying the school back?
That's how I remember it. But it's confusing. $24M was the budget overrun after adding the garage, right? I think there was another shortfall the university had to cover back when we moved from the Big 12 to the Pac-12. Probably some other things. But the AD is now healthy despite the new debt service. RG had budgeted for a shortfall this year, expecting to need to pull $600k out of reserves. However, with the success of football he was able to add $1.4M to the reserves. Also, a lot of the fundraising has been on endowment rather than project-specific. The AD is becoming very healthy with its finances.
 
That's how I remember it. But it's confusing. $24M was the budget overrun after adding the garage, right? I think there was another shortfall the university had to cover back when we moved from the Big 12 to the Pac-12. Probably some other things. But the AD is now healthy despite the new debt service. RG had budgeted for a shortfall this year, expecting to need to pull $600k out of reserves. However, with the success of football he was able to add $1.4M to the reserves. Also, a lot of the fundraising has been on endowment rather than project-specific. The AD is becoming very healthy with its finances.

Perhaps the AD was able to reconcile any outstanding debt with the university by adding the garage to the IPF.

Either way, nice to know some Regents feel like an AD is such a huge burden on an university.
 
Where is Benson in all of this? He has been awfully quiet it seems.

I thought he was the master politician that got **** done and when he finally realized football was causing him a fundraising problem, he invested in it.

Is he staying out of it because he doesn't want to get dirtied with the whole Tumpkin thing?
 
Where is Benson in all of this? He has been awfully quiet it seems.

I thought he was the master politician that got **** done and when he finally realized football was causing him a fundraising problem, he invested in it.

Is he staying out of it because he doesn't want to get dirtied with the whole Tumpkin thing?

If he just said, "I'll let the facts guide the University's decisions as it relates to personnel issues. But rest assured, one thing our fans, donors, and student athletes should hear from me. I am fully committed to sustaining excellence, and rewarding performance that serves the University's mission in the classroom and everywhere our student athletes compete. Yes. Athletics was important to me when I made a substantial personal donation to the Drive for 105. The excellence that Buffs experienced over the prior school year was remarkable and is something I and many of the regents seek to sustain, even as we address ways to better address the tough issue of sexual abuse and domestic violence."
 
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For those of you on twitter, it wouldn't hurt to tweet encouragement for people to write the regents. Feel free to link this thread.
 
Does Benson have final approval one way or another or is a decision from the Regents final on these matters?

Can't ratify Mac's contract extension and raise w/o regent majority approval.
 
Benson serves at the behest of the Regents.
So in a vote that is supposedly split down the middle, a 20-something year old Jack Kroll effectively has more power in this situation than Bruce Benson does? Lame... Although he does say football games are his favorite thing about CU Boulder... Scoooooop???
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Just got a response from a Regent.

Thanks Dave – I so appreciate you taking the time to send this. Your feedback matters.

Best, Heidi

Heidi Ganahl
Regent, University of Colorado
Founder, Camp Bow Wow
President, Fight Back Foundations

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Anybody know how to confirm which district you are in? I appear to be right on the border of 3 & 4 with the crayon drawn images I have been able to pull up.
 
Heidi followed me on twitter at the start of the season after I assume one of my tweets came across her TL. So I followed her back and she is pretty much nonstop positivity towards athletics and good things going on in the community.

Basically the opposite of Kuta lol. I definitely believe she read and responded genuinely.
 
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