in the Big 12, all-time. Without doing any research other than being a fan, heres my list (probably lots of incorrect "facts"). 1-OU- Hard to argue. 7 national titles, something like 5 Heisman winners, countless consensus All-Americans, great fan base (not great in the sense of like "lets hang out", but, in the show up and spend money sense) Knocks: Not many. They re-load every year. Hell, they lost their prize QB, replaced him with a WR and won the Big 12. Nice. Guess the knock is bowl games. And being d-bags. 2-UNL Tradition. Blah, blah, blah. Knocks-Everything. Specifically-they like the ****. And spanking ass since its the closest I could find.:asskicking: 3- Texas 4 National titles, 3 Heisman Trophy winners (okay, i made that up...educated guess), countless All Americans, rabid (though dickish....see:Rusty) fan base, great recruiting, coaching greats. Knock: Werent in a great conference until the Big 12, OU's bitch. Futures bright though. Damn good program. 4- CU- A&M fans would argue that Im being a homer here, but, I'd argue their school is a cult, so, whatev. National title, bunch of conference titles, Heisman winners, 61 Consensus All-Americans, tradition (Ralphie,flat irons, etc). Knock- Worst fan base of the bunch, no question. I love us, but, we dont show up. 5-A&M National title, conference title, tradion (Kyle Field, 12th man, Lassie or whatever the hell they call that dog, midnight yell, etc) Knock- Think they're way better then they are, what have you done for me lately? Over-rated home field advantage, seem to lose a game or 2 there a year and fans dont sell it out if it's not a big game. And I insist its a cult. 6- Tech Lots of recent success, pretty good fan base, 2 pretty good coaches in Dykes and Leach (both probably spelled wrong, competitive in the wicked Big 12 South. Knocks- Lubbock. Facilities. 7- Oklahoma State Heisman trophy winner, GREAT facilities, recent success. Knock-One rabid fan (see Pickens,Boone) otherwise a pretty apathetic fan base, little brother of OU, orange sh*t everywhere. 8- Missouri Historically pretty good, recently pretty good. Nice location, nice fan base. Knock-Just kind of there. Nothing really stands out. Plus, i dont like them 9-12. Running out of time. Just a pick em. Id go Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor. Thoughts?