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TSchekler

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All that B1G money has bought ****braska a ****ty athletic department.

I realize it’s all relative, but CU has a nearly $100MM AD budget. This narrative that we are broke is comical.
Nobody says CU is broke, but suggesting everything is fine simply because ****braska’s football program sucks, is your head being in the sand. The 5th best program in the BIG just bought our coach by doubling his salary and assistant coach pool. The money disparity is a major issue.
 

Not Sure

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Nobody says CU is broke, but suggesting everything is fine simply because ****braska’s football program sucks, is your head being in the sand. The 5th best program in the BIG just bought our coach by doubling his salary and assistant coach pool. The money disparity is a major issue.
Where did I say everything is fine?
 

FlatironsBuff

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Would rather beat them 2 years in a row and be broke.
Problem is, this gap is going to widen. There will be haves and have nots. If we don’t get into the east coast big boy conferences, we WILL be Mountain West level. Everyone will be. We just saw the money issue happen with Midnight Mel. Anytime Karl gets a great coach the B1G and SEC will just siphon them off. Forever and ever. I love the teams we play better in the PAC. But it isn’t sustainable IMO. Eventually the expansions from the B1G and SEC will take Oregon and USC and Washington and... where will we be?

We need to get good and be attractive for the SEC or B1G to want us to come be part of the gang. Otherwise we will forever be part of the ‘Have Nots’. I think the writing is pretty clear. The time is close to decide if we want our future tied to Oregon State and Washington State, or Wisconsin and Iowa. The money gap is growing and we won’t be sitting at the Adults table if we don’t make a move.
 

hokiehead

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Something fundamental is wrong here.

California, by itself, if the world's 5th largest economy, and the P5 conference with all the big Cali schools is this far behind the east coast conferences covering rural Southern states and rust-belt states

West coast college fan apathy?
Poor leadership?

Does that explain the full disparity?
 

BuffsNYC

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Something fundamental is wrong here.

California, by itself, if the world's 5th largest economy, and the P5 conference with all the big Cali schools is this far behind the east coast conferences covering rural Southern states and rust-belt states

West coast college fan apathy?
Poor leadership?

Does that explain the full disparity?
There's no doubt the Pac could've made more money by partnering with an established network for third-tier games. The question is: can the Pac parley it's complete ownership of those rights into more money in the future?
I'm guessing that, based on ratings, the Pac will always be behind the Big and the SEC. The question is: how far behind?
 

hokiehead

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There's no doubt the Pac could've made more money by partnering with an established network for third-tier games. The question is: can the Pac parley it's complete ownership of those rights into more money in the future?
I'm guessing that, based on ratings, the Pac will always be behind the Big and the SEC. The question is: how far behind?
But you see, I'm more interested in how to close the gap. There's so much more money in the Pac states than in the SEC states or B1G states, I struggle to believe there isn't a workable way to get some of that to the schools.

Alabama has the 45th ranked GDP in the US, but has two of the higher revenue P5 AD's. While Cali schools are going broke?!?!?!
 

TSchekler

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But you see, I'm more interested in how to close the gap. There's so much more money in the Pac states than in the SEC states or B1G states, I struggle to believe there isn't a workable way to get some of that to the schools.

Alabama has the 45th ranked GDP in the US, but has two of the higher revenue P5 AD's. While Cali schools are going broke?!?!?!
People choose to spend money on their priorities, and football is not a priority for people in the western states (generally) like they are for people in the South.

Yes, some of the southern schools have big time boosters that help with the financial health of specific programs, but the TV $$$ is where the major gap comes from. The BIG and SEC have capitalized on their ratings and fan interest and parlayed it into ridiculous media deals that the Pac 12 couldn’t/wouldn’t because it wanted to own the entirety of its network.

Poor leadership and indifferent fanbases are the root causes.
 

BerkeleyBuff

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But you see, I'm more interested in how to close the gap. There's so much more money in the Pac states than in the SEC states or B1G states, I struggle to believe there isn't a workable way to get some of that to the schools.

Alabama has the 45th ranked GDP in the US, but has two of the higher revenue P5 AD's. While Cali schools are going broke?!?!?!
Economic money has nothing to do with football fandom. Poorer people in the south will shell out big sums to see a game, well-off west coasters simply don't so the same.
 

2001Grad

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Economic money has nothing to do with football fandom. Poorer people in the south will shell out big sums to see a game, well-off west coasters simply don't so the same.
This is true of the south.

Also the migration out of the traditional B1G footprint because of various economic factors has increased the media footprint of the B1G. Sometimes the wealth of market works against college football economics.
 

MiamiBuffs

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But you see, I'm more interested in how to close the gap. There's so much more money in the Pac states than in the SEC states or B1G states, I struggle to believe there isn't a workable way to get some of that to the schools.

Alabama has the 45th ranked GDP in the US, but has two of the higher revenue P5 AD's. While Cali schools are going broke?!?!?!
These things all have to do with WHEN the deals start and end and whats in them.

The PAC12 signed a 12 year deal, the Biggest TV deal and was briefly number 1 in 2011. That deal expires in 2024.
The Big12 signed a 12 year deal shortly after that in 2012 and was not number 1. That deal expires in 2025.
The SEC also signed in 2012. BUT they expanded in 2014 and signed a 20 year deal which created the SEC network and they became number 1. That deal runs to 2034
Then in 2013 the BigTen signed a 10 year deal, also did an expansion after the deal, making them number 1. That deal lasts to 2023.
Finally, In 2016 the ACC signed a new deal, not the largest deal, and in order to get the ACC Network the deal lasts 19 years. They are under contract until 2035.

Now I'll also say there were other deals for the BigTen and for the SEC. BUT they chose to expand their conferences and adding teams allowed them to re-negotiate and grant rights to the new members.

The Big12 tried this tactic too but their TV rights owners told them they will not get anymore money and need to divide the pot by 12 instead of by 10. At which point they abruptly disolved the expansion deal.

Based on what Im seeing in terms of the dates this problem isnt going away because the BigTen will once again go right after us and use our numbers to get another deal better and bigger than our deal.

The SEC having to wait until 2034 might be too much for them as they'll watch others go twice between when they signed and when 2034 rolls around.
 

CarolinaBuff

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People choose to spend money on their priorities, and football is not a priority for people in the western states (generally) like they are for people in the South.

Yes, some of the southern schools have big time boosters that help with the financial health of specific programs, but the TV $$$ is where the major gap comes from. The BIG and SEC have capitalized on their ratings and fan interest and parlayed it into ridiculous media deals that the Pac 12 couldn’t/wouldn’t because it wanted to own the entirety of its network.

Poor leadership and indifferent fanbases are the root causes.
This sums it up perfectly. The ACC is not that different from the Pac12 when it comes to football fan apathy but the difference is the leadership and time zone, plus they have a number of marquee basketball programs. And they have almost always had a team in contention for the NC in football whether it was FSU who is a good national brand or Clemson who is quickly becoming one as of late.
 
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