Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Darth Snow, Jan 16, 2013.
Works for me. We can let UNLV and New Mexico build up their programs for a future Pac 12 invite...while CSU continues being CSU.
That means Boise State gets moved to the MWC East division unless the MWC adds two more schools. This could end up being a good thing for CSU if BSU is in the West division instead of East division.
Might as well do it given where football is at these days.
Sounds like the MWC is sticking at 12 unless Houston or BYU wanted to come on board to get to 14. Divisions are rumored to break down as follows with a Conference Championship game played at the home of the highest rated division leader:
Nice stable conference that looks like it will be around awhile unless or until one of the Big 5 pick off a school or two.
meh ... not much to get excited about- Might be stable enough for now but doesn't excite me.
IF New Mexico & UNLV continue to make improvements those make the most sense as 'way in the future' Pac12 members.
I'm glad that this keeps some strength in college sports in the west. The big least can't attract much anymore.
I think it looks good. Fans at those schools have to feel like their away game destinations have improved whether they were in the WAC or MWC a few years ago.
Solid second tier conference, IMO.
Arguably the best second tier conference, maybe better than the Big Least which is the worst of 1st tier.
Problem for the MWC is that despite having some decent product they just don't have the media markets to produce the revenue to keep up with the gains of the major conferences. I saw an article that said that their total conference media distributions would be about $32 million a year total meaning a little less than $3 million a team. Teams in the PAC, SEC, and B1G are looking at over $30 million each. The Big XII, and ACC at over $12 and up to $25 million each.
The MWC schools are not going to be able compete in terms of facilities and recruiting budgets. They will also have a hard time holding on to highly successful coaches. They aren't going to get premium time slots on TV, recruits aren't going to know who they are.
I'm thinking Hawaii is going to seriously consider taking their other sports to the MWC if the MWC adopts the old Big 12 basketball scheduling format since Hawaii would play most games on the west coast including the Nevada schools.
The problem for Hawaii in any conference is always going to be travel cost, not only for revenue sports but also for the non-revenue sports. If they can schedule a high percentage of west coast games it will help control these.
Having Hawaii in your conference sticks you with these same higher travel cost. On the other hand the idea that you will get at least a couple of Hawaii trips in your career isn't a bad recruiting tool. The question for the MWC is can they afford the cost or can they control them by creative scheduling of non-revenue sports like having a limited number of events in Hawaii and having they participate in more events located on the west coast.
Just curious about your ordering, since using last year's records would make that:
11-2 Utah State (#16 AP)
11-2 Boise State (#18 AP)
6-7 Air Force
4-8 Colorado State
4-9 New Mexico
You evidently have a mental block for BSU but think CSU is better than the rest. Interesting psychology.
Honestly, there was no ryhme or reason to the order I listed the programs in the division. Simply listed the schools.
Never understood why Boise and SDSU wanted to move to the Big East when the BCS was going to end in 2014 anyway. MWC league is just as strong as the Big East now. Pacific division looks a bit stronger than the Mountain one. Better recruiting ground too.
$$ Nobody was sure the BCS was going to end. Also at the time the conversation started it looked like the Big East was going to be a viable league capable of getting a TV contract that would have paid each school upward of $15 million, or that was the hope. As soon as other conferences started gutting the BE that hope went away and thus Boise and SDSU staying in the MWC. Boise is getting a little extra consideration but will still be way under the media distribution they were hoping the BE would be able to provide.
This could end up being a good thing for CSU if BSU is in the West division instead of East division.
The disparity between the "bcs" conferences and "non-bcs" conferences has never been bigger, and the gap will only widen
B1G 10 - $310 million
PAC 12 - $303 million
ACC - $293 million
SEC. - $270 million
BIG 12 - $262 million
Big east - $94 million
Con USA - $26.5 million
MAC. - $22 million
MWC. - $21.5 million
WAC. - $10 million
Bowl money, tv revenue, and NCAAT money
CU makes more money than than the entire MWC and we went 0-2 against them this last season in football. I'm now going to find a bridge to jump off.
Although sad, we still hadn't seen any of that money until after the season
stop ruining my suicide attempt.
Yes please stop getting in his way. :lol:
Although even without TV money CU makes more money that the MWC schools do each.
I wonder what will happen to that $94 million figure for the BE as schools continue to leave them.
MWC is solid but definitely still a 2nd-tier conference. Basically the western version of Conference USA. You have to wonder if Big East football is going to survive.
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