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Sir Larry Scott.. (P12 considering buying out Larry Scott)
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How much does BYUs head FB coach make? How high profile and well paid is their MBB coach? Non revenue sports coaches? That should speak on some level to how successful they are as an independent.The deal is with ESPN for rights to all the BYU home games with a minimum of 4 having to be picked up (networks + also on the ESPN app). BYUTV is only part of the deal for ESPN letting them broadcast 1 game a year because BYU wanted that. At least 3 of those ESPN games have to be on ABC/ESPN/ESPN2, while the rest they pick up optionally being on ESPNU. They also locked in BYU to the Independence Bowl, basically.
BYU announces 7-year ESPN contract extension, bowl tie-ins
Anyone who worried that ESPN didn’t really like the BYU football brand can put those fears to rest.www.heraldextra.com
USC has powerful alums that are wealthy. Its a destination school. They are also in the heart of the nations largest TV market. I think they could easily get ND level money from someone.
It's not really correlated. BYU is pretty serious about the religious mission and not spending its resources in this way. Historically an athletic department that pays significantly below market value and this has never had anything to do with what they can afford. It's why Bronco left for UVA.
They are always able to get good coaches anyway by leveraging it as almost an LDS mission/obligation for a qualified coach.
The NFL could assume that business at some point. If ATT under invests or ****s up DTV too much that could push the NFL to step in And take it over. The NFL could also just license Sunday Ticket to ESPN, Amazon, or someone else. In todays streaming world it wont be that hard.
Agreed. But, those are IF scenarios. DirecTV/ATT would be signaling the end if they permit that scenario.
01Buff
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It might be the near the end. NFL could come to their senses and see that Ticket could be more profitable as a readily available option, like NBA league pass, instead hitching the wagon to a soon to be irrelevant exclusive technology provider.
The owners of the NFL aren’t progressive. If DirecTV/ATT provides them with a competitive revenue stream that enables them to control broadcast terms (blackouts) and can double dip (Sunday Ticket + Broadcast TV) they’ll go for it. If DirecTV/ATT decides to throw in the towel, streaming is something NFL owners will consider.
DirecTV/ATT still has a significant number of rabid sports fans who can only see a sliver of P12 games. That is the current system for the foreseeable future. We can cry into the wind all we want. The P12 is still getting lapped in current deals and will be lapped again when the B1G and $EC get to renegotiate before the P12’s current deal is done. If the teams in those conferences each get to make $250-$300 million more than every P12 school in TV revenue over two deals, call it a night for P12 competitiveness.
NFL has felt that way for a while, imo. But DTV based its entire business model on this exclusive and when negotiations came up they kept saying yes to whatever the NFL decided to make them pay. Fleeced and it's the real reason DTV wasn't in a position to meet terms on PACN -- all its bets were riding on the NFL and it didn't leave room for paying the rate Limo Larry demanded as the standard rate.
ATT is already pruning the DTV customer base by getting rid of lower margin customers. ive posted about this here in this thread and in the cord cutter thread. ATT is one of the most heavily leveraged companies in America which will cause it pressure from shareholders someday to bring its debt position down.
the problem for all the middle men like Dish, Dtv, Comcast is that the content owners continually raise prices on them. Disney buying ABC, ESPN, and Fox is one way they have insured the highest costs possible because they have the power to pull the plug on sooooo much content. The SEC, the B1G UT and others are the beneficiary of that clout. The puny little PAC12 Network has no chance on its own for that reason. Much like Altittude. These channels are not worth the cost in the onslaught of customers like myself and luke who realized we were getting ripped off and canceled.
01Buff
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I agree that NFL is not progressive, But ATT/DTV will have real competition in that auction. At some point a Bowlen like owner will influence the current owners and they’ll realize the blackouts are not to their advantage. They like money and will agree.
The P12 in the mean time is guaranteed nothing through any NFL deal. Whether it’s geography, culture, mismanagement of this conference. It’s hard to imagine making up the ground lost with these 12 schools.
CU is fortunately in a desirable market with a modicum of brand, so I’ll hang my hat on that for not being left behind. But at best we will continue to play catch up until there is a sea change.
In the next 5 years or nah?
Yep. There was a bigger business risk to saying no on Longhorn Network and it had nothing to do with subscriber interest -- everything to do with all the other content controlled by Disney.
For that reason, it would have made sense for Pac-12 to have sold a share of PACN to ESPN or FOX even if it was less than the 49% other conferences gave.
If it does come to pass that LS is removed I think it would behove the P12 to open their checkbook (again) and get someone (again) who has a background in negotiating these kinds of deals. Someone from the B1G, SEC, or NFL. Or hire one of those conferences former comissioners as a consultnt.
Either way RG is not the dude for that.
Did you hear the rumor that DC comics might be sold to Disney? ATT owns that thru its Time Warner acquisition. If it happens Id say its somewhat less than 5 years.
Is AT&T Getting Ready to Kill DC Comics? | The Motley Fool
Recent actions are sparking fresh rumors that the telecom giant might try and sell the iconic comic book publishing unit.
www.fool.com
Selling TW properties means that they’re going to let DTV go belly up within 5 years? Interesting. We’ll see I guess.Did you hear the rumor that DC comics might be sold to Disney? ATT owns that thru its Time Warner acquisition. If it happens Id say its somewhat less than 5 years.
Is AT&T Getting Ready to Kill DC Comics? | The Motley Fool
Recent actions are sparking fresh rumors that the telecom giant might try and sell the iconic comic book publishing unit.
The 2024 TV deal I would think would have to include the sale of 50% of the P12N. Once its bundled its on everyones network. And the drag of productions costs on conference finances ends. But so does 6 separate channels. Remember that the ACC and SEC signed 20 year deals for their networks and theyll be stuck into the 2030s with roughly the same payments theyre getting now. Which might be good but will probably be bad as others will renegotiate. We only signed a 12 year deal in 2011 so hopefully we can sell it and get another shorter deal again so were not stuck.
No, theyre selling to relieve their debt costs. They have an activist on their board thats pushing for more share holder value. Debt they accrued to purchase multiple comapnies at the same time they bought DTV.
I posted This as an example of how they are not investing in or growing the DTV business. The multiple years reports that DTV has been losing subscribers;
Analysts: DIRECTV bleeding subscribers from 'self-inflicted' wounds
www.spglobal.com
AT&T loses another 1.3 million TV customers as DirecTV freefall continues
AT&T tries to make peace with investors after losing 5M subscribers since 2016.
arstechnica.com
They bought in 2015 for $67 billion and had less subscribers by 2017. And its been getting worse. Its not a growth entity within the company which has $153b in debt. DTV is estimated to be worth far less than what they paid.
AT&T Could Take A ~$7.5 Billion Haircut If It Divests DirecTV
The Wall Street Journal reported that AT&T might be considering selling its under-performing DirecTV satellite TV operations, partly due to pressure from activist hedge fund Elliott Management which wants the company to streamline its business. The company is contemplating multiple options...
www.forbes.com
First good thing he's done for the conference
He should take a 100% paycut and retain some staffers. He’s already useless.
Its too bad we cant go back to distributions of $8 million per team....
If Pac-12 can't get its act together, what should USC do?
And now the next shoe drops as the certainty that USC and the Pac-12 will figure out how to get back to football this fall. It's been an academic, almost theoretical,
247sports.com
Not larry related, but thought as good a place as any.
If Pac-12 can't get its act together, what should USC do?
And now the next shoe drops as the certainty that USC and the Pac-12 will figure out how to get back to football this fall. It's been an academic, almost theoretical,
Not larry related, but thought as good a place as any.
USC and Bohn will be using their leverage to get the best deal they can get if not for the entire Pac-12.
When the Dodgers and Lakers have those huge media rights deals, it would be foolish for USC and UCLA not to at least explore having their own third tier media rights deals.
Canzano: Pac-12 presidents and chancellors put the squeeze on conference headquarters
A second round of cuts and budget reductions hit conference offices.
www.oregonlive.com
\Canzano: Pac-12 presidents and chancellors put the squeeze on conference headquarters
A second round of cuts and budget reductions hit conference offices.
Ruh roh. Some of those decision makers will be smart enough to target Rick George for the job.Canzano: Pac-12 presidents and chancellors put the squeeze on conference headquarters
A second round of cuts and budget reductions hit conference offices.