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so i watched a lot of the boise state game tonight...

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Liver, Oct 17, 2008.

  1. Liver

    Liver modded mod Club Member Junta Member

    Jul 8, 2005
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    i've always tried to catch their games, even back when hawkins was there. they are absolutely one of my favorite teams to bet on because they win the games they are supposed to win.

    so, tonight, as i was sitting there, watching their offense go, i realized a few things...

    it LOOKS like our offense if you squint your eyes a bit. but, the difference is in execution and playcalling.

    in terms of execution, they should look better because they are the class of their conference going against a very weak team. their athletes relative to their opponents are usually better. we aren't in that position yet. recruiting, hopefully, will fix that. the other piece of execution that stood out to me was the fact that all their guys on offense seemed to know where to be and when. when they ran the no-huddle, they still had time to substitute and audible and everything else. our guys don't look like that.

    in terms of playcalling and scheme, whomever is calling their plays (i don't know if it is pederson or the oc or what) definitely has a much better feel for the game than our oc. they ran out of the i-formation when they needed to do so. they got the offense in a rhythm. it was a thing of beauty to watch.

    so, i guess this is a long-winded way of saying that, like others, i am having doubts about our offensive coordinator. i don't think he "gets it."

    i know our guys are young and inexperienced and we've lost a ton of key guys. your execution is bound to fall off when this happens. but, after watching bsu and thinking about the "way they do it" and comparing it to the way we do it, i am not that thrilled with our staff's version of this offense.

    if hawk sticks with this guy, i hope he grows into the job damned soon.

    as i have said before, it isn't totally fair to judge the staff when the team is in the condition it is in. so, i will try to reserve judgment. but, the contrast between the bsu version and the CU version is pretty striking right now.

    i do think CU is going to freaking ROLL the kitties tomorrow in any case!

  2. Bali Buff

    Bali Buff Well-Known Member

    Aug 20, 2005
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    Here's my problem with Helfrich and the current situation.

    First I don't think he's an OC. Not at this level anyways. His offensive schemes look very High Schoolish. There's no flow to the play calling, no tempo to the game, basically no substance. Having said that, it appears we are teaching him how to be an OC and we're getting very little return for our collective buck.

    Second, there is no doubt in my mind that if, and that's a big if, he get's it, he'll be gone in a heartbeat back to the Pac 10 or some other pass oriented conference.

    So why are we investing in this guy. I don't see any magic miracles he's pulling off with the QB's, which you would think he would have down cold.

    We should be further along IMO. Our offense doesn't look all that much better then 2 years ago. I'm perplexed by Hawk's decision with this hire.
  3. SkiTownUSA

    SkiTownUSA Administrator Club Member Junta Member

    Jan 31, 2008
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    Great observations. I agree. With time, and hopefully sooner than later our OC will get it. I may be an optimist, but 09 or 10 we'll finish in the top 10. Go Buffs!
  4. Mick Ronson

    Mick Ronson Well-Known Member

    Sep 29, 2005
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    i personally don't get what we "try" and do on O with playcalling.
  5. FlatironsBuff

    FlatironsBuff Club Member Club Member

    Jul 8, 2005
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    I am not sure what is going on, but didn't he coach under Dick Koettler, not only at ASU, but at BSU too? It seems that one reason Hawk got him is that he had alot of experience with this system. Either he is not good at reading mismatches on the field, or is not good at adapting to fit the personell he has, or both. Or neither one, and I am not aware of other things to be overcome, as I am not a coach.

    So far I am pleased with gaines CU has made in recruiting, but not so pleased with how CU has executed. Some of that has to be due to youth and injuries, but it just seems like that can't be the only issue. We see kids not knowing how to lineup all the time, part of me thinks that that is youth, specifically the coaches trying to get the best talent on the field, but the best talent does not neccesarily know the scheme the best.
  6. Buffocrat

    Buffocrat Member

    Oct 18, 2008
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    When has CU had mismatches?

    Not on the offensive line
    Not in the wide receivers
    Not in the backfield (yet)

    At what position can CU exploit the defense?

    CU is trying to make this work with a bunch of 2 and 3 star athletes and three failed upperclass recruting classes (2004-2006). Give it time. This season was going to be ugly.

    Stop comparing this team to BSU
    Stop comparing Hawk to Mac (Mac didn't have to deal with this millenium arms race with one hand tied behind his back)
    Going have to commit to this man and team for the long term before we see any results.
  7. buff4bcs1985

    buff4bcs1985 Hail to the King Club Member

    Feb 4, 2008
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    Damn That is a Strong First Post Way To Bring It!!!
  8. Idot Buff

    Idot Buff Guest

    Sweet post.

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