On one level, they're right -- we have very little proven talent right now. Roberson, Dufault & Thompson are really the only guys returning that played quality minutes for us last season. But they're ignoring Brown's contributions at Utah. Adams played well at Juco. I really think this team is going to surprise people. Other notes of interest: Pac-12 Predictions: 1.) Arizona (#12 pre-season, #3 seed in tourney) 2.) UCLA (#15 pre-season, #4 seed in tourney) 3.) Cal (#23 pre-season, #6 seed in tourney) 4.) Washington (#25 pre-season, #7 seed in tourney) 5.) Oregon (#11 seed in tourney) 6.) Stanford 7.) Oregon State 8.) USC (this is prior to Fontan's injury) 9.) Arizona State 10.) Washington State 11.) Colorado 12.) Utah All Pac-12: * Allen Crabbe, Cal * Jorge Gutierrez, Cal * Jared Cunningham, Oregon St * Terrence Ross, Washington * Reeves Nelson, UCLA Also, for our Wichita State friends, they have the Shockers 2nd in the Missouri Valley Conference (behind Creighton) and a 10 seed in the tourney.