Top 25: AP vs Coaches vs RPI

[Buffnik]

RANK	AP	Coach	RPI
1	Syracuse	Syracuse	Kansas
2	Florida	Florida	Arizona
3	Wichita State	Wichita State	Syracuse
4	Arizona	Arizona	Florida
5	Duke	Louisville	Villanova
6	San Diego State	Duke	Wisconsin
7	Cincinnati	San Diego State	Wichita State
8	Kansas	Kansas	Creighton
9	Villanova	Cincinnati	Duke
10	Saint Louis	Saint Louis	Iowa State
11	Louisville	Villanova	Saint Louis
12	Creighton	Creighton	UCLA
13	Michigan State	Virginia	Michigan State
14	Virginia	Michigan State	Virginia
15	Iowa	Iowa	Ohio State
16	Wisconsin	Kentucky	Massachusetts
17	Iowa State	Texas	Cincinnati
18	Kentucky	Wisconsin	Kentucky
19	Texas	Iowa State	San Diego State
20	Michigan	Michigan	Michigan
21	Connecticut	Connecticut	Texas
22	Memphis	Gonzaga	VCU
23	UCLA	Ohio State	Gonzaga
24	Ohio State	Memphis	Oklahoma
25	Gonzaga	UCLA	Connecticut

Based on RPI, the polls have the following notable differences:

Too Low
Kansas (SOS not valued enough)
Wisconsin
UCLA
Ohio State

Too High
SDSU (by about 10 spots)
Cincinnati (see SDSU)
Louisville (#32 RPI)
Iowa (#48 RPI)

Left Out
Oklahoma (7 votes in AP, 31 in Coaches - good for #26 so about right)
VCU (2 votes in AP, 1 in Coaches)

 

[jgisland]

Ran across this today, thought it was kind of interesting. Todd Fuhrman, a former book maker at Caesars and now at Don's Best did a bracket Vegas Power Ranking Bracket. CU would not be in Vegas' top 64 or in the first 4 out. (based purely on power rankings). Arizona, UCLA, ASU, Oregon, Cal, Stanford and Utah would all get in based on power rankings.

Vegas power rankings, vs kenpom vs the ap.

	Vegas	Pomeroy	AP
#1	Florida	Arizona	Florida
#2	Duke	Duke	Wichita St
#3	Louisville	Louisville	Arizona
#4	Creighton	Florida	Syracuse
#5	Virginia	Creighton	Kansas
#6	Arizona	Virginia	Duke
#7	Kansas	Kansas	Louisville
#8	Iowa	Wichita St	Villanova
#9	Villanova	Villanova	Creighton
#10	Syracuse	Iowa	St. Louis
#11	Wichita St	Syracuse	Cincinnati
#12	Wisconsin	Wisconsin	Virginia
#13	Ohio St	Ohio St	San Diego St
#14	UCLA	Michigan	Wisconsin
#15	Kentucky	UCLA	Iowa St
#16	Michigan	Michigan St	Michigan

 

[tante]

Wisconsin is stupid low in the AP. They are on a 5 game win streak and just won @ #15 Michigan and @ #15 Iowa (huh?) and move up two spots. Syracuse loses two games and drops three spots. It is like the polls don't want to punish Syracuse and Duke for losing so teams like Virginia (who are on an 11 game win streak) can move up.

 

[scoob]

Ran across this today, thought it was kind of interesting. Todd Fuhrman, a former book maker at Caesars and now at Don's Best did a bracket Vegas Power Ranking Bracket. CU would not be in Vegas' top 64 or in the first 4 out. (based purely on power rankings). Arizona, UCLA, ASU, Oregon, Cal, Stanford and Utah would all get in based on power rankings.

Vegas power rankings, vs kenpom vs the ap.

Painful. I've heard some noise about the selection committee not weighting RPI as heavily this season (although that's been said in the past as well). Hopefully, this is not the season the really begin. That is really our saving grace right now.

As much as I'd like to ignore them, I'd certainly give a Don Best bookmaker or Ken Pomeroy much more weight than any poll or RPI/BPI (or even Sagarin) calculation. The sources that I'd trust the most don't really think much of us.