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Top 25: AP vs Coaches vs RPI

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Buffnik, Feb 18, 2014.

  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    RANKAPCoachRPI
    1SyracuseSyracuseKansas
    2FloridaFloridaArizona
    3Wichita StateWichita StateSyracuse
    4ArizonaArizonaFlorida
    5DukeLouisvilleVillanova
    6San Diego StateDukeWisconsin
    7CincinnatiSan Diego StateWichita State
    8KansasKansasCreighton
    9VillanovaCincinnatiDuke
    10Saint LouisSaint LouisIowa State
    11LouisvilleVillanovaSaint Louis
    12CreightonCreightonUCLA
    13Michigan StateVirginiaMichigan State
    14VirginiaMichigan StateVirginia
    15IowaIowaOhio State
    16WisconsinKentuckyMassachusetts
    17Iowa StateTexasCincinnati
    18KentuckyWisconsinKentucky
    19TexasIowa StateSan Diego State
    20MichiganMichiganMichigan
    21ConnecticutConnecticutTexas
    22MemphisGonzagaVCU
    23UCLAOhio StateGonzaga
    24Ohio StateMemphisOklahoma
    25GonzagaUCLAConnecticut

    Based on RPI, the polls have the following notable differences:

    Too Low
    Kansas (SOS not valued enough)
    Wisconsin
    UCLA
    Ohio State

    Too High
    SDSU (by about 10 spots)
    Cincinnati (see SDSU)
    Louisville (#32 RPI)
    Iowa (#48 RPI)

    Left Out
    Oklahoma (7 votes in AP, 31 in Coaches - good for #26 so about right)
    VCU (2 votes in AP, 1 in Coaches)
     
  2. jgisland

    jgisland Club Member Club Member

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    Ran across this today, thought it was kind of interesting. Todd Fuhrman, a former book maker at Caesars and now at Don's Best did a bracket Vegas Power Ranking Bracket. CU would not be in Vegas' top 64 or in the first 4 out. (based purely on power rankings). Arizona, UCLA, ASU, Oregon, Cal, Stanford and Utah would all get in based on power rankings.

    Vegas power rankings, vs kenpom vs the ap.

    VegasPomeroyAP
    #1FloridaArizonaFlorida
    #2DukeDukeWichita St
    #3LouisvilleLouisvilleArizona
    #4CreightonFloridaSyracuse
    #5VirginiaCreightonKansas
    #6ArizonaVirginiaDuke
    #7KansasKansasLouisville
    #8IowaWichita StVillanova
    #9VillanovaVillanovaCreighton
    #10SyracuseIowaSt. Louis
    #11Wichita StSyracuseCincinnati
    #12WisconsinWisconsinVirginia
    #13Ohio StOhio StSan Diego St
    #14UCLAMichiganWisconsin
    #15KentuckyUCLAIowa St
    #16MichiganMichigan StMichigan
     
  3. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    Wisconsin is stupid low in the AP. They are on a 5 game win streak and just won @ #15 Michigan and @ #15 Iowa (huh?) and move up two spots. Syracuse loses two games and drops three spots. It is like the polls don't want to punish Syracuse and Duke for losing so teams like Virginia (who are on an 11 game win streak) can move up.
     
  4. scoob

    scoob Club Member Club Member

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    Painful. I've heard some noise about the selection committee not weighting RPI as heavily this season (although that's been said in the past as well). Hopefully, this is not the season the really begin. That is really our saving grace right now.

    As much as I'd like to ignore them, I'd certainly give a Don Best bookmaker or Ken Pomeroy much more weight than any poll or RPI/BPI (or even Sagarin) calculation. The sources that I'd trust the most don't really think much of us.
     

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