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tv negotiations: please, please, please be true!

huskermark said:
When were you ever a Pac-12 contender, or better yet when do you hope to be?
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huskermark said:
When were you ever a Pac-12 contender, or better yet when do you hope to be?
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Coming from a Husker fan whose team hasn't won a conference title in nearly 12 years...go figure.

If ESPN wins the NHL deal, Comcast and Fox Sports will give the Pac-12 an offer that can't be turned down. I don't think ESPN will be serious about the Pac-12.
 
NashBuff said:
If ESPN wins the NHL deal, Comcast and Fox Sports will give the Pac-12 an offer that can't be turned down. I don't think ESPN will be serious about the Pac-12.
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One possible factor that might keep ESPN in the picture is this...

When the ACC TV package was being negotiated last year, ESPN thought they had it sewn up. They had been doing business with the ACC for several years and had worked out a deal with long-time syndicator Raycom to televise games.

Then Fox steps in with a big increase trying to get their foot back into college sports.

ESPN was pissed off, and a bidding war ensued that left ESPN the high bidder, but at a 30% markup over what they had expected to pay.

I wonder if ESPN wouldn't return the favor on Fox, with the Pac-12 being the beneficiary of the bad blood.
 
ScottyBuff said:
Wilner needs a math class:



pretty sure that comes out to $120/yr.

Now, 100 MILLION cable households would generate $120,000,000 in annual revenue.
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Nope, 100 cable households. Apparently satellite is really winning that war... :lol:
 
huskermark said:
When were you ever a Pac-12 contender, or better yet when do you hope to be?
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don't let the door hit you in the ass, fusker.

while you are sitting there in a contaminated corn field, with a missile silo on your left and a giant pile of burning cow dung on your right, please think of us enjoying the p12.
 
Husker fan is the psycho ex girlfriend that refuses to take a hint. Keeps showing up at the door unannounced just wanting to be friends.
 
Chip Brown was spewing something about the big 12 schools making twice as much as the SEC on the radio this morning. I believe that he is only thinking about Texas, not the other schools...
 
GoBuffs08 said:
Husker fan is the psycho ex girlfriend that refuses to take a hint. Keeps showing up at the door unannounced just wanting to be friends.
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More like the Jahovah's Witness of the football world than psycho ex-girlfriend. Either way, the front stoop is better off without them.
 
GregInAustin said:
Chip Brown was spewing something about the big 12 schools making twice as much as the SEC on the radio this morning. I believe that he is only thinking about Texas, not the other schools...
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Apparently, the bigliltex12-2 conference just signed a deal with Fox that nets around $90mil a year. After uTerus takes 80%, aTm and the boomer split the next 10%, that leaves the little seven with about a $1.98 a year. What a windfall.
 
RedDirtBuff said:
Apparently, the bigliltex12-2 conference just signed a deal with Fox that nets around $90mil a year. After uTerus takes 80%, aTm and the boomer split the next 10%, that leaves the little seven with about a $1.98 a year. What a windfall.
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With the additional 65 million from ABC/ESPN through 2015 that makes 155 million a year. Factor in the 20M guarantee to UT, OU, and aTm that leaves, at best with unequal revenue sharing, 95 million between the rest. Meaning approx 13.5 million as the highest payout possible each year for the next half decade. Talk about underwhelming.
 
buffedup said:
With the additional 65 million from ABC/ESPN through 2015 that makes 155 million a year. Factor in the 20M guarantee to UT, OU, and aTm that leaves, at best with unequal revenue sharing, 95 million between the rest. Meaning approx 13.5 million as the highest payout possible each year for the next half decade. Talk about underwhelming.
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I don't think schools like Iowa State or Kansas State or Baylor consider a $13.5 mil payout to be "underwelming". That is almost double what they received on an annual basis from the old Big 12 television agreement. And given the fact that those schools were 48 hours away from being left without any conference at all, I am sure they are quite happy with this arrangement.
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
I don't think schools like Iowa State or Kansas State or Baylor consider a $13.5 mil payout to be "underwelming". That is almost double what they received on an annual basis from the old Big 12 television agreement. And given the fact that those schools were 48 hours away from being left without any conference at all, I am sure they are quite happy with this arrangement.
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That is the highest possible, not what they'll actually get, I have a feeling that in certain years for the schools you mention they'll be lucky to take a couple million more than they did under the old deal, still way better than being left in the cold, but pretty sparse when compared to other conference deals.
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
I don't think schools like Iowa State or Kansas State or Baylor consider a $13.5 mil payout to be "underwelming". That is almost double what they received on an annual basis from the old Big 12 television agreement. And given the fact that those schools were 48 hours away from being left without any conference at all, I am sure they are quite happy with this arrangement.
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translation: they are hookers, but they've settled on a price for their services that works for them.
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
I don't think schools like Iowa State or Kansas State or Baylor consider a $13.5 mil payout to be "underwelming". That is almost double what they received on an annual basis from the old Big 12 television agreement. And given the fact that those schools were 48 hours away from being left without any conference at all, I am sure they are quite happy with this arrangement.
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translation: they'll get what they get and like it.
 
absinthe said:
That is the highest possible, not what they'll actually get, I have a feeling that in certain years for the schools you mention they'll be lucky to take a couple million more than they did under the old deal, still way better than being left in the cold, but pretty sparse when compared to other conference deals.
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Really?

You think the smaller schools would rather be in the WAC? Conference USA? MWC? Perhaps the Mid America Conference? Certainly the Sun Belt!?!

Hmm... $1 mil annual payout or $13.5 mil.. Hmmm..

What better deal were ISU, KSU, KU, Baylor, Tech, OSU, etc. going to get?
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
Really?

You think the smaller schools would rather be in the WAC? Conference USA? MWC? Perhaps the Mid America Conference? Certainly the Sun Belt!?!

Hmm... $1 mil annual payout or $13.5 mil.. Hmmm..

What better deal were ISU, KSU, KU, Baylor, Tech, OSU, etc. going to get?
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Sorry I left the initials BCS out of my last sentence.

It is pretty sparse compared to the 13 million guaranteed in the ACC, or the 17+ Northwestern pulls in the Big 10, or the 17.3 Mississippi St pulled in in the SEC, and these are all old numbers bound to go up. So for the top end to Mizzou to be around 13.5m and the rest falling inline below that it isnt great. For a BCS confrence.

Here are the 2008-2009 numebrs for the big12:

. Oklahoma, $12.2 million
2. Texas, $11.8 million
3. Kansas, $11.5 million
4. Missouri, $10.4 million
5. Texas A&M, $10.2 million
6. Oklahoma State, $10.0 million
7. Colorado, $9.77 million
8. Nebraska, $9.73 million
9. Texas Tech, $9.2 million
10. Baylor, $9.1 million
11. Iowa State, $8.9 million
12. Kansas State, $8.4 million


Most of those schools wont pick up a whole hell of a lot under the new deals, well except for the Texas three who will double their take.
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
Really?

You think the smaller schools would rather be in the WAC? Conference USA? MWC? Perhaps the Mid America Conference? Certainly the Sun Belt!?!

Hmm... $1 mil annual payout or $13.5 mil.. Hmmm..

What better deal were ISU, KSU, KU, Baylor, Tech, OSU, etc. going to get?
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The moral of the story is be thankful we aren't them.
 
absinthe said:
Sorry I left the initials BCS out of my last sentence.

It is pretty sparse compared to the 13 million guaranteed in the ACC, or the 17+ Northwestern pulls in the Big 10, or the 17.3 Mississippi St pulled in in the SEC, and these are all old numbers bound to go up. So for the top end to Mizzou to be around 13.5m and the rest falling inline below that it isnt great. For a BCS confrence.

Here are the 2008-2009 numebrs for the big12:

. Oklahoma, $12.2 million
2. Texas, $11.8 million
3. Kansas, $11.5 million
4. Missouri, $10.4 million
5. Texas A&M, $10.2 million
6. Oklahoma State, $10.0 million
7. Colorado, $9.77 million
8. Nebraska, $9.73 million
9. Texas Tech, $9.2 million
10. Baylor, $9.1 million
11. Iowa State, $8.9 million
12. Kansas State, $8.4 million


Most of those schools wont pick up a whole hell of a lot under the new deals, well except for the Texas three who will double their take.
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And what is wrong with that?

The Big 12 contract is just about right. What interest is there in Big 12 sports outside the state of Texas? None. There are no large media markets to pull in huge television numbers except for the state of Texas. It is not a fertile television are like the Big 10 geographical area, or the SEC geographical area, or even the Pac-12 area. Ames, Iowa? Are you kidding?

And Texas and Oklahoma should get the most money - they are the only two teams worth a **** in that whole conference.

That a school like Iowa State - which has never won anything in football - gets the chance to make $13.5 mil a year, while BYU, Boise State, etc. get pretty much nothing.... ISU and its like must be counting their lucky stars.
 
Lt.Col.FrankSlade said:
That a school like Iowa State - which has never won anything in football - gets the chance to make $13.5 mil a year, while BYU, Boise State, etc. get pretty much nothing.... ISU and its like must be counting their lucky stars.
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Quoted for the benefit of any CSU fan who might be lurking.
 
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