Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Jens1893, Apr 3, 2012.
Surprised about Wroten. He needs a lot of work on his jumper; guess he decided he'd rather get paid to work on it.
Bad news for the Pac-12, could've used the talent to raise the national reputation of the league.
Washington is going to be weak in the backcourt next year. But with what they return and what they're expected to add, their frontcourt should be really good and deep. They might be better than people expect.
Missing Wroten and Ross will absolutely be huge, no doubt about it. I wish them both well!
Funny thing is though, UW next year, despite the losses of Gant/Ross/Wroten, will still be a more veteran team than this year. And we'll have fewer starters leaving than last year as well. I wouldn't bet on UW being better or worse. They were in rebuilding mode this year and they were probably less of a team than any other squad in Romar's tenure. They got by on talent alone but did not consistently play well. They were missing the "it" factor. There was no real leadership on the floor and it cost them. Something was missing this year, and next year UW could be better or worse...
I'm personally much more worried about the frontcourt than the backcourt. Aziz is returning, but Gant is gone. They either need transfers to come in and play or have one of the true sophomores step up big-time. CJ Wilcox should be 100% next year, and with a healthy Gaddy and returning Suggs the backcourt or 1-3 positions should be just fine.
Returning is Redshirt Senior Scott Suggs (missed him badly with his injury this year). And Abdul Gaddy really came on strong at the end of the year so it appears he is now fully healed from last year's ACL tear heading into the offseason. Andrew Andrews has been projected to be another great guard and he redshirted this year. It will be interesting to see if UW gets any transfers or who they can focus on now that they know scholly numbers. I wouldn't expect UW to win the conference next year, but they could possibly be a better team. I think the frontcourt is the biggest concern right now, we'll see if it's addressed in the offseason.
Nik, I'm curious who you expect UW to add. I really haven't heard anything. Is there an impact player they're expected to sign this spring?
I think they're going to sign Anthony Bennett.
I also think they'll pull in a scoring guard with McLaughlin (led JUCOs this year and is local).
Does it really matter? This conference is now owned by the Colorado Buffaloes. The rest are just playing for our scraps.
Bennett would be huge. If they can land him, there shouldn't be a huge drop-off in talent next year. I guess I didn't realize Washington was the front-runner there.
I agree there is a great chance with McLaughlin.
I would be thrilled if Bennett signs with UW, but I would bet on him landing in Kentucky or Florida.
I think UW will sign another big, but I doubt it's Bennett...
There was an article written yesterday before Wroten announced called Is It Better For the Huskies If Wroten Goes Pro?
They had a couple interesting points on Wroten and Ross:
One observation most Husky fans would agree with is that the team underachieved and mostly it was due to issues of chemistry and immaturity. The remaining players will be a year older and all those freshmen will have had a year in the system to learn the defensive schemes and improve their bodies and skill sets. But, what about team chemistry?
Losing Terrance Ross’ incredible talent will hurt. But, he plays a position that the Huskies are relatively deep at. They have C.J. Wilcox and Scott Suggs returning.
Abdul Gaddy played the most minutes of any players for the Huskies this season. When Gaddy was on the floor, Wroten did not have to handle the ball as much and was more free to be a slasher, rather than a distributor and court general.
The Huskies have another player with a solid set of skills coming in with RS freshman Andrew Andrews. Andrews is described as a scoring point guard who can fill it up, but also handle the ball distribution needs when necessary.
They sound a lot more optimistic than we did when we lost our best two players last year.
Nik called it
Brad Winton @JucoRecruiting Mark McLaughlin of Tacoma CC has given a verbal commitment to the University of Washington.
Looks like Kentucky is going to sign Anthony Bennett. Had no idea where to post this.
That changes my opinion on UDub for next season by a lot.
am I the only one that wants the PAC to be a good basketball conference next year?
It will. CU, Arizona, and UCLA will all make the dance next year.
and you consider that good? getting one more team in the tourney. Hell the MWC put in 4 teams this year.
A lot better than this year. Stanford has a chance as well. I'm almost tempted to say that UCLA and Arizona could finish the season in the top 15, maybe top 10. ASU, USC, and Utah will be horrible. UW will be bad. OSU I'm not sure, same with Oregon, WSU, and Cal.
once again is 3 teams getting in a lot better?
The top three teams will be much better. Overall, I don't think the conference perception across the country will improve all that much but the winner of the regular season title will actually get in this year. Idk, I think Stanford has a really good chance. OSU doesn't looking at them since Cunningham is leaving and their recruiting class is less than stellar. I mean, it can't get any worse than it was last year but the bottom is still going to be really, really bad. Maybe Nik or Goose have some more insight (hopefully).
Bennett not going to UW next year is no surprise. I think there is a better than 50/50 shot that UW will still land a big, but they won't take one unless it is a good fit. That could determine ultimately how good they become. They're loaded at the 1-3, and weak at the 4,5.
Having said that, it would not surprise me in the least if UW is a better team next year. They won't be a deep tourney team by any stretch, but I would be shocked if they are worse overall. The backcourt is deeper, there will be more veteran leadership and if they stay healthy they could be a better overall squad... It will certainly be a more veteran and seasoned squad. This year's UW team has long been thought to be the weakest in years due to the youth. It showed down the stretch. UW won't have 8 freshman next year like we did this year If CJ is healthy he will mitigate Ross's departure, and the backcourt will likely be stronger with Andrews and McLaughlin adding to the rotation with Gaddy...
If we just look at the number of tourney teams, 3 isn't all that impressive. But there were literally NO teams in the conference last year that had any kind of national profile. That should change next year, which gives the conference a big boost. And back to your original question, I'd like to see improvement in the Pac 12, but not enough to knock us out of the top 3 or 4 teams. We need to keep the momentum going!
We might have one team that lingers in the top 25 for most of the year instead of none, so that's progress, but certainly nothing drastic.
I see no reason to believe that this upcoming season won't be another weak year in the Pac.
By default it's hard to top arguably the worst year ever in terms of conference perception...
The Pac still does not have an elite team. Arizona and UCLA are still paper tigers... The Pac is still a wide open conference, although there will be potentially a lot more mediocre teams IMO...
What we need to do is win in November as a conference.
Until we have 3rd and 4th year players with NBA talent we will be down... Oregon and Cal will be worse. Stanford, CU, UCLA, Arizona and UW could all be better. We need to win OOC match ups early or the perception will linger...
The bottom fourth of the conference should still be pretty bad. USC, Utah, Arizona State will have a tough competing next season imo.
Arizona and UCLA will be the favorites, but both have weaknesses. Arizona doesn't have much depth at guard, UCLA not much depth up front. Stanford and Colorado could both surprise in the conference. Both had very good recruiting classes and both have key returning players. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see either Stanford or Colorado win the conference.
California will likely remain relevant.. hard to see them dropping off too much. As a whole, it should be a better conference... but then again UCLA and Cal were both ranked early last year, and neither finished that way. Arizona had a top 5 recruiting class that largely disappointed.
Perris Blackwell is the newest Husky transfer...
6'9" 240# PF transfer from San Fran.
solid help down the line.
He'll sit out a year and then have one to play one is my understanding...
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