Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by seattlebuff, Dec 11, 2012.
I honestly think a big part of the speed that you see is because the players are coached well so they know what they are doing. They can play at full speed instead of tentatively. The major turnaround for MacIntyre started in the second year, and that was just after they got back to 85 scholarships. There is no way that San Jose State all of the sudden had speed to burn after coming off of sanctions and being as terrible as Colorado was last year. Good coaching can work wonders.
CU has more talent that people realize.
For instance, if you watch season highlights you see some breakaway runs from Jones and Powell. I think there are a lot of pieces to this offense in 2013 if we can find a QB to get them the ball.
In many ways, I agree with you. We're more talented than the stats showed. But a huge part of the pistol is throwing the ball out in the flat, or short slants, and then depending on your receivers to make people miss with side-stepping agility and breakaway speed. Very little of that on our roster. PRich, and maybe the Thomas boys. But I agree with @buffed up that coaching and the scheme can bring that out of kids that you didn't previously see it in. And having the right gunslinger at QB is essential. We might want to keep Hirsch around, but Webb, Wood, Schrock, and Billy Joe Jim Bob gotta go.
That is about where I'm at. Good coaching and schemes could get us there.
Umm ya in gonna have to disagree with your take on the pistol here.
How much did MacIntyre have his QB running the power out of the pistol?
That's what I think of with that offensive set because of how much I saw UCLA do that the year they went to it.
The highlites I swa didn't have them in the pistol much. Just a normal Gun formation with a lone RB next to the QB and 4 guys wide, one of which was a TE, slightly set apart from the tackle.
I gues I was referring to what he said in the press conference, which I thought he said the pistol with spread principles or something like that. Anyway, you need people that can make defenders miss, the way I see it. Maybe I'm wrong.
Pistol is not an offense, it is a formation. You can do almost any offense from the pistol.
Last year, sjsu looked a lot like UCLA did this year, only a lot less read option. Honestly, from what I saw it was a lot of vertical routes off play action from pistol and shotgun. They also liked to use the TE over the middle. The running game was basic zone blocking and downhill. Sort of like a spread version of the old Shanahan Broncos running game. Sometimes we use a fb lined up to the side of the qb.
Also, the Rbs do a lot of motion and pass blocking. A LOT of pass blocking.
Honestly, I think this offense will be great for Powell. He can block, he can catch, he doesn't need a blocker in front of him.
Your post is confusing. Are you saying that you prefer the pistol offense or the shotgun offense?
phone wins over grammar. better (see above). Also, I know you were being snarky, asshole.
Isn't what RGIII is running mostly starting in the pistol? Basically set short behind center. One back still lined up behind qb. Sometimes a second back, wr, H-back as well. Some zone read, some old shannahan zone scheme, lots of quick passes with some intermediate and deep stuff mixed in. Definitely fun to watch, of course that might have something to do with Bob Grif
I watched and posted some of those same highlights. It is a sad and exciting time. We will see, I guess. I also feel coaching and game preperation is way underrated. When you get your players to understand (the system) and they are in proper position to execute, it makes a difference that we have not seen in Boulder for 8 seasons now. Look around, there are teams that play at much higher levels due to coaching, schemes, preparation and lack of mental mistakes.
very very disturbing stuff seattlebuff
We don't know that at all. When receivers have to wait for the ball or react to a poorly thrown ball they have very little time to make any type of move other than securing the ball.
True, nearly every one of Spruces catches this year required him to fall to the ground or dive out of bounds to secure the catch. Some of that was necessary ball placement but most was poor throws.
Or bad routes and timing?? I don't know. Just offering another answer.
good point probably a little of both at times eh?
I guess my point was that on the rare occasion when most of our "playmakers" got into space (Powell, Jones, Spruce, McCulloch), they showed very little LATERAL quickness, which to me is the thing you have to have in the Pac-12. Guys who can make tacklers miss, or at least spin out of tackles for extra yards. G Thomas and maybe Abron show little flashes of it. SJSU seemed to have 4-5 guys with real quickness. Again, upgrades at QB and overall execution will help tons, and breakaway vertical speed is nice, but we need a serious upgrade in athleticism.
I don't dobut that the players on CU's roster can play good...I believe the problem lies within the confidence level of the team and QB play.
:yeahthat: confidence and motivation can be the difference between night and day.
Did Canty redshirt this year? He has talent, plus this coaching staff might know how to use Gerald Thomas better than the last one did. And we have PRich back.
In the end...Shane Dillon will be the difference I believe. I think he is gonna be special.
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