1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

What are the expectations going forward in football?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Duff Man, Mar 18, 2016.

  1. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2006
    Messages:
    40,555
    Likes Received:
    5,493
    Both short-term and long-term. Relevant because I think there has been such an interesting reaction to basketball success under Tad Boyle.
     
  2. J.R. Ewing

    J.R. Ewing Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2011
    Messages:
    14,219
    Likes Received:
    3,994
    I expect us to make a bowl this year.

    I predict, we'll fall just short.
     
    Bufffan68 likes this.
  3. onealcd

    onealcd Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    6,085
    Likes Received:
    1,707
    Bowl game every year and compete for the pac12 south division title once every four years would be my expectation for the long term. Basketball is different IMO because one player has such an impact and recruiting is so shady.
     
    JPinCO, dio and TDforTD like this.
  4. Shldr2Shldr

    Shldr2Shldr Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2011
    Messages:
    17,015
    Likes Received:
    5,138
    My expectation this year is a winning season. 7-6. Where that 7th win comes from, Idc. Moving forward, I expect incremental increase up the Pac-12 ladder, with us competing for a Pac-12 south title sometime in the next 5 years.
     
  5. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2006
    Messages:
    25,948
    Likes Received:
    1,556
    Bowl game this year. Hard to say for next because of the QB uncertainty. Beyond that getting back to winning 7+ games annually while we continue to upgrade staff, game day expereince, and right the financial house. When it becomes feasible to sell the plateaued narrative make a move on a better HC option.

    I think the question if we want to relate football to hoops is what is equivalent of 20-10 - is that 8-4? is it 9-3? CU's expectations for football should on the historical average be higher than basketball, especially with the disproportionate investment in FB. In hoops consistent 20-10 with NCAA bids in more than half the years a good bar for our program today. What is that number for football?
     
    Last edited: Mar 18, 2016
    dyemeduke, scoob, Goose and 1 other person like this.
  6. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Messages:
    48,987
    Likes Received:
    4,909
    My expectations for the football program are that it gets to a level roughly the same as where the basketball program is now. I want to expect to win every home game, regardless of opponent. I want to be in the conversation for conference titles. Understanding there are off years from time to time, but that those are exceptions, not the rule.
    The basketball team wins twice as many games as it loses. That's pretty much where I want the football program to be. 8-4 records will get you into bowl games and will have you ranked more times than not.
     
    TDforTD, TSchekler and mdelpizzo_1 like this.
  7. mdelpizzo_1

    mdelpizzo_1 My Dixie Wrecked Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2009
    Messages:
    6,339
    Likes Received:
    745
    This. Then when we're upset about winning only 8 games change that to 10+ and top 15 ranking or the world is falling apart.
     
  8. absinthe

    absinthe Ambitious but rubbish. Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2006
    Messages:
    25,948
    Likes Received:
    1,556
    More than anything we need to start winning some ****ign home games.
     
    Idot Buff likes this.
  9. TSchekler

    TSchekler Hey Peter man, check out channel 9! Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2015
    Messages:
    12,088
    Likes Received:
    4,856
    Short Term: Bowl Game. Don't care how.

    Mid Term: Going into every season with the mindset that CU can legitimately compete for the Pac 12 South, and not being laughed at by other P12 fans for having that mentality.

    Long Term: Being a perennial bowl team that is always on the fringe or in the top 25, with every 2-3 years being able to vault into the top 15 and have a legitimate shot of winning the Pac 12 and earning a playoff bid.
     
  10. Clean Undies

    Clean Undies Flagship of the 12-Pac Club Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2007
    Messages:
    27,659
    Likes Received:
    6,303
    Short Term (next 2 years)
    - Exit bottom of P12 South in both record and recruiting, measured by 2016 bowl eligibility and 2017 incoming class ranked above 1 or more P12S peers (looking at AZ, UT).
    Break losing streak against ASU.
    > 11,000 season ticket holders and avg > 42,500 attendance. Win more than lose at home.
    Coaches payroll middle to upper half of conference.

    Long Term - Compete in CCG 1 or more times every 4 years and win conference better than 1 of every 7. Ranked in top 25 at end of season 1 of every 3 years or better.
    Recruiting better than at least 2 California schools every year and regularly out recruit 7 or more P12 peers.
    Win as many recruiting battles as we lose against Stanford.
    > 21,000 season ticket holders and sell out Folsom > 3 times each season.
    Break losing streak with USC, including win in LA 1 of 4 trips or better.
    Coach's payroll among top 4 in conference.

    Balch/Flatirons Club renovations.

    Don't give reasons for local media to give program negative press for off field activities.
     
    JPinCO, SpacemanSpiff and TDforTD like this.
  11. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2008
    Messages:
    17,405
    Likes Received:
    1,902
    Delete your mid term and scale back your long term a little bit and you have my answer
     
  12. TSchekler

    TSchekler Hey Peter man, check out channel 9! Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2015
    Messages:
    12,088
    Likes Received:
    4,856
    Fair enough. What does your scaled back long term look like?
     
  13. BehindEnemyLines

    BehindEnemyLines beware the habu Club Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2007
    Messages:
    14,663
    Likes Received:
    970
  14. 96 Buff

    96 Buff Resident Commie Bastard Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Messages:
    13,238
    Likes Received:
    1,204
    win every game by 50 points.
     
  15. pcbuff

    pcbuff Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2012
    Messages:
    818
    Likes Received:
    141
    Short term: Bowl game
    Long term: average 8 wins and top third in recruiting classes for Pac.

    I would be very happy if they achieve this while maintaining current graduation rates and arrest records.

    The optimist is outweighing the pesimist and preventing me from putting down my prediction for next season.
     
  16. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2008
    Messages:
    17,405
    Likes Received:
    1,902
    Every 2-3 years seems a little optimistic imo. Maybe every 5.
     
  17. goalline

    goalline Keeper of the Blues Club Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2013
    Messages:
    3,799
    Likes Received:
    1,332
    I think Sacky pretty much nailed. But, I like 96's answer too. Go Buffs!

    As far as character, I expect us to have the first or second defense in the Pac12 South (long term) regardless of offense and a couple of good kickers.
     
    TDforTD likes this.
  18. TSchekler

    TSchekler Hey Peter man, check out channel 9! Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2015
    Messages:
    12,088
    Likes Received:
    4,856
    Yeah, I guess I just look at it like, if we're a fringe top 25, 8-4 team every year, then hopefully every 2-3 years we'll have recruited well enough and have the pieces to be a top 15 team. I would take every 5 years too, though.
     
  19. BuffNut99

    BuffNut99 Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2008
    Messages:
    13,148
    Likes Received:
    2,582
    7 wins, no excuses
     
    FLounder and TDforTD like this.
  20. Swish

    Swish Half a bubble off Club Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2006
    Messages:
    4,238
    Likes Received:
    575
    I think we will make a bowl game this year and I think we need to for a lot of reasons.

    For the future, eventually I want us back to where we were during the end of the McCartney years. We were one tough out and stood a good chance to win against anyone we played, anytime we took the field. I want other programs to fear the Buffs again.

    I do still believe our current coach can get that done with the right pieces. But to me, this year tells the story.
     
    TDforTD likes this.
  21. BuffsNYC

    BuffsNYC Uptown Club Member

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2007
    Messages:
    2,791
    Likes Received:
    1,085
  22. Big Jim

    Big Jim WTF? Club Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2014
    Messages:
    1,611
    Likes Received:
    627
    Fri, Sep 02 Colorado State @ Denver
    Sat, Sep 10 Idaho State
    Sat, Sep 17 @ Michigan
    Sat, Sep 24 @ Oregon
    Sat, Oct 01 Oregon State
    Sat, Oct 08 @ Southern California
    Sat, Oct 15 Arizona State
    Sat, Oct 22 @ Stanford
    Thu, Nov 03 UCLA
    Sat, Nov 12 @ Arizona
    Sat, Nov 19 Washington State
    Sat, Nov 26 Utah Boulder


    Sure Wins: Idaho State
    Likely Wins: Oregon State
    Slight/Moderate favorite: Colorado State
    50/50: Washington State, Utah
    Slight/Moderate underdog: @Arizona
    Likely Losses: Arizona State, UCLA
    Sure Losses: @Michigan, @Oregon, @Southern California, @Stanford
     
  23. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2009
    Messages:
    82,207
    Likes Received:
    18,080
    Basketball expectations are different. This is a football school. Consistently pretty good and entertaining won't cut it. Need to get to that level and maintain it first, though. The 2017 recruiting class needs to be good enough to set a realistic expectation of competing for conference titles starting 2-3 years from now.
     
    BuffsRising likes this.
  24. Sykobuff

    Sykobuff Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2015
    Messages:
    3,945
    Likes Received:
    1,140
    Bowl game EVERY year
    Compete for pac12 south title every 3
    Pac 12 title 1 out of every 5 years.
     
  25. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2009
    Messages:
    82,207
    Likes Received:
    18,080
    Is that a goal or expectation? Because that equates to 2 national championship playoffs a decade
     
  26. TSchekler

    TSchekler Hey Peter man, check out channel 9! Club Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2015
    Messages:
    12,088
    Likes Received:
    4,856
    Fair. All home games/CSU in 2016 should be considered "winnable". Of the home/neutral games, I could see them going 4-3 or 5-2 (best case), which means they'll have to get themselves at least one, if not two road wins...
     
  27. J.R. Ewing

    J.R. Ewing Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2011
    Messages:
    14,219
    Likes Received:
    3,994
    That sounds more like a ceiling.
     
  28. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2006
    Messages:
    40,555
    Likes Received:
    5,493
    I like it.
     
  29. Sykobuff

    Sykobuff Club Member Club Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2015
    Messages:
    3,945
    Likes Received:
    1,140
    That is a goal sir...
     
  30. skibum

    skibum Did not pee on the Alamo. Club Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2010
    Messages:
    3,300
    Likes Received:
    1,373
    We've only got four more years to win a conference title to keep our "at least once a decade" streak alive (in our whole history we only missed the 50s). I think of that as a short term goal, and it's one I want pretty badly.

    My long term goal is essentially the same: I want that streak to continue indefinitely. Ultimately if you're going to win the conference championship at least once a decade, you're going to have to be making a legitimate run at it two to four times a decade, and you can't afford any of these ****ty, multi-year losing streaks.
     

Share This Page