Unleash Hell
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I like it!
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Where do you see us finishing in P-12 South next year?
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I like it!
I've been hearing the next year stuff for waaay waaay too long. Who are the big name senior class folks that you are talking about? When I look down the roster for Jr.s I don't really see many players that are going to turn a team that'll finish at the bottom of the big 12 north into a team that is going to compete for the 12 pac north championship. A new coach will make some difference, but the talent just isn't there to run with the big dogs.
Unleash Hell
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Your leaving out a huge key factor on why this isn't panning out.
Every year its something. Coach, youth, injuries, coach.
There is only one constant here...
No, in order, the excuses were coach, youth, injuries, coach.
Every year, the only thing that was constant was Hawk. And the dissapointments he delivered. There is a legitimate reason to believe things will be better next year, because Hawk is gone.
True. But the reason for our issues the past 4+ years is primarily coach, coach, coach, coach, coach.
I ****ing hope so. I'm just saying that every year there was a reason that the next year would be better. I'm not sold on our talent level and think the competition is going to get a bit better.
I look at it like we were talented enough to play Georgia even in our 2 games against them the past 5 seasons. Since I refuse to believe we out-coached those guys, I have to believe that we wanted it more and had enough talent to hang. And I can look at the recruiting ranks and NFL drafts and know that UGA is one of the 10 most talented programs in the nation.
Unleash Hell
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Add in Oklahoma in '07, WVU and Nebraska in '08, and Texas and Okie state last year. I agree, we do have talent that we can compete with a lot of teams with good coaching.
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As does Montana State.
I'm not trying to be a downer, but it's been so long, I need to see quality play on the field before I'm convinced we can routinely compete in conference play. I hope we do, of course.
Unleash Hell
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coaching!!!! Although I do think our talent looks scary bad after next year.
Some guys who will be seniors in 2012: Givens, Jefferson, Major, Pericak, Polk, Rippy, Kasa, West
Some guys who will be juniors in 2012: Harris, Bakhtiari, Richardson, Thornton, Bonsu, Webb, Bell, Orms
I don't think it's as bad as people think it will be after the big class graduates following 2011. Throw in some of the transfers, guys we'll recruit the next 2 classes, guys who haven't had a chance to show anything yet, etc. If we find a QB, we have enough to compete for the conference with the right coaching.
Del
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I guess Chip Brown got it wrong on the divisions.:lol::lol::lol: Found it funny that his "sources" had Colorado going to the North with the Cali and Zona schools to the south-- Once that story was rebuffed and it looked like CU was going south, he suddenly stopped talking about it. They didn't even mention the PAC 12 press conference on their show until the last 20 minutes when they had a guest on talking about the Oregon/UCLA match up tonight. Both Chip and Sean both have it out for NU and CU and its awesome that we get the last laugh. I'm so glad that we are out of the Big XII because now there is no reason for me to listen to any of the local sports talk shows here in Austin.
**** orangeboobs.com and the horse they rode in on.
BTW: You should call the show and ask ol' chipper when he expects to get that $35-40MM from CU and nubrasca ....... what a doofus.
1. USC
2. Utah
3. Arizona
4. Arizona State
5. UCLA
6. Colorado
With Hawk as coach of course.
With new guy? Assuming he's not awful.
1. USC
2. Utah
3. Colorado
4. Arizona
5. Arizona State
6. UCLA
2. Utah
3. Arizona
4. Arizona State
5. UCLA
6. Colorado
With Hawk as coach of course.
With new guy? Assuming he's not awful.
1. USC
2. Utah
3. Colorado
4. Arizona
5. Arizona State
6. UCLA
77buff
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I agree with you - Talkins could be back if he manages to win 6 games.
Unleash Hell
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doubt it
1. USC
2. Arizona
3. Utah
4. ASU
5. UCLA
6. CU
I wouldn't discount USC. They will still have the most talented players with a year under their new coach. Kiffen is still a question mark, but USC will always have talent and depth. They always have, always will have the "talent". It's just a matter of whether it's coached well...
2. Arizona
3. Utah
4. ASU
5. UCLA
6. CU
I wouldn't discount USC. They will still have the most talented players with a year under their new coach. Kiffen is still a question mark, but USC will always have talent and depth. They always have, always will have the "talent". It's just a matter of whether it's coached well...
This. We'd be ecstatic if we had USC's 2011 class. Kiffin is more of a factor than the probation in whether we will see a drop off. And it will be gradual (if there is one).
Nope.
USC will have depth issues over the next few seasons due to the scholarship reductions. They will be good, but you're going to see them wear down as the season goes along until the scholarship reductions end.