Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by buffaholic, Jun 12, 2013.
Will Ski get minutes? Competition at 2 is going to be big.
No doubt. bet its closer to his frosh year minutes than his soph year minutes tho.
Most writers are projecting us to have one of the best back courts in the nation, but Ski can't get any love from our fans. He's gonna have a big year, guys.
I think he's gonna be in a roll that's much better for him. Doesn't mean he's not gonna be great for us though.
Agreed. 32mpg was too much for a player like Ski. 22-25 as a change of pace player who comes in with a green light should fit him well though.
Agree. There should be more scoring options than last season, which will help his game out greatly. He can drive the paint and hit the 3-ball. Here's hoping he's working on his mid-range game this summer.
He can but he didn't?
Why would next yr be different?
Writers? Like the writers who picked us 11th 2 seasons ago?
Most of us watch a lot more CU basketball and you are putting credo in these writers? Same types who write about CU losing our starting QB to legal issues....
The writers don't know how poorly he played as the season went on. He could pop this year but if he plays like last year he will be a tempo guy off the bench for 18 min per game and good at that.
Re: '12 CO PF Wesley Gordon (Signed to Colorado)
Don't forget we finished 6th that season. I think 11th was low but we were an unproven commodity and they didn't estimate our home court advantage properly.
Well this thread is about Gordon who has an opening to more solid PT.
Not saying Ski cannot have a great season but just saying the writers have no better clue than Allbuffs. He will be pressed as all the returners will, we hope.
I'm hoping Ski can be the microwave off the bench.
We all seem to forget he single handed shot us back into the NCAA tourney game. He had a rough season at times, but its called a sophomore slump for a reason.
Completely true but that was 2 years ago when the most notable thing about CU basketball was that we got snubbed, and Chauncey attended the school a decade and a half ago. We've picked up a huge amount more media coverage over the past couple of years and as a ranked team last year, 2 time tourney team, and a preseason top-25 the "writers" today know a lot more about CU than they did 3+/- years ago.
I'm still pro-Ski. I'll chase the dragon, and say he'll have a bounce back year.
I think he will too. But he will play less minutes. Hell, EVERYONE might play less minutes, Mayor included.
We're going to have to petition the Pac-12 to extend games to 48 minutes.
Him being a heck of a good on-ball defender doesn't hurt either.
This. Big Ski fan.
Goose and 'Nik really supporting Skia... I get you guys want to support a young guy who could possibly turn the corner this year and make a big jump forward, but both of you guys are smart enough to also see that if we had any depth at all last year, he would have been sat.
If he's a "damn good SG who can score buckets in a hurry", I agree he will play. Just haven't seen that too much yet, certainly not most of the time.
Ski is maddening. But I still love the guy. He'll probably play fewer minutes but be more productive, if that makes any sense.
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He definitely can score in bunches, but he really needs to improve his performance on the road. He never shot over 40% once all year on the road. He can't do that again next year. I think the compeittion will really help his game because he knows that he can't shot poorly for extended periods of time without being benched. Last year, Boyle only had Chen and Adams off the bench. Neither was a good scoring option.
This year, Boyle has Hopkins, Jenkins, Fletcher, Thomas, King, and a sophomore Talton to take some shots from the guard/forward spots. I don't believe Stalzer will ever play more than spot minutes for us unless he develops a 3pt shot.
Boyle was asked that exact question last year at an event I was at, although he politicked a little he did come across pretty clearly in saying he wouldn't/won't sit Ski (or any other player) for shooting issues, so long as they are taking good shots within the offense as he said that is part of the game, and burying a guy on the bench doesnt help solve it. Ski will need to be more efficient next season for certain; but we are putting a lot of faith in a guy who's never played a minute of college ball in his life, who I could out bench-press considerably last year to take minutes a away from a player who is physically more mature and has 2 seasons of pac-12 ball under his belt.
It has been said elsewhere that it is likely almost no one plays more minutes next season. The bench is getting longer, guys like Talton are more comfortable, that will certainly see Ski's minutes and roll change this coming season. But writing off a strong on ball defender, who is the quickest player on the team with 2 seasons experience under his belt, that can from time to time shoot an entire team out of the gym isnt being realistic.
Here's the thing with Ski, guys.
He will never be a high percentage shooter. We need him up in the 40-44% range instead of last season's 36% (he was at 40% as a frosh). Last year, Mayor was at 41.5% to give a comparison.
But despite the shooting struggles from Ski's sophomore year, he delivered the following:
#1 on team in made 3pt baskets
#2 on team in scoring average
#2 on team in assists per game
#2 on team in steals per game
#3 on team in free throw percentage
#4 on team in rebounds per game (ahead of Mayor)
Plus he's a great on-ball defender and reliable press breaker from the "2". The key to his game is getting back to being aggressive toward the basket. As a freshman, he shot 105 free throws. As a sophomore, his minutes went from 754 to 1050 but his FT attempts went down to 81. Year-to-year, his 3pt attempts doubled from 78 to 157 while his overall shot attempts saw much less of a volume increase (259 to 418). Ski's got to get his shot selection mix back to more like his freshman splits.
And for that to happen, we really need to start hitting more 3s. Teams packed it in against us last year and dared us to beat them with the 3. We didn't have enough guys who could knock down that open shot to hold them accountable, so ski (who NEEDs space on the inside to get to the rim) really was hurt. I think that should be more or less fixed this year.
He also has a knack for coming up big in big games. Leading scorer in both NCAA Tourney games two years ago, pre-season tourney MVP last year and responsible for making it a game against Illinois in the most recent tourney first round game
It is only a sophomore slump if he has a great year. Last year's stats were weighted in favor of the early season, but once we got in to conference play, he really struggled with an occasional huge game. If the mayor is going to be the point, I'd like to see more consistent play from our 2 guard.
I miss his old hair. Maybe he had some Samson blood in him.
I could see ski be backup point.his experience could really come into play when the mayor comes off the floor. With him at point we wouldn't have that dreaded 10 minutes of nothing like the past few years.
This. While he seemingly plays down to the competition on occasion and I will be the first to admit that he needs to turn the 3 ball into his 2nd option shot (deferring to a drive to the rim), he came up huge against UNLV and made it a game against the illini.
He's got a higher bball iq and more pac12 exp than any of the incoming freshman, and knows what it takes to play a full season at this level.
I wouldnt be shocked if his minutes increased as conf play wore on and the freshmen got tired.
Also, I dont think there will be 4 guys to play at that spot. Im thinking 2 kids are getting red-shirted.
FWIW, I think Tad also sees him as a team leader and he may get a bit more PT based on that. Nice that he was 1 of 3 players to show for Cliff Meely's services (the Mayor and Scott too)
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