You know what is awesome about CU basketball?

[Darth Snow]

"we have the est coach in PAC 12" + posted after we beat Oregon=tad coached really well last night.

Pretty simple to me. And I don't post to stir the pot like your run of the mill contrarians. He needs to be better tonight, in-game and on the fly-than he did yesterday.

I notice you have completely failed to debate nik's points beyond claiming you were not mattslapped. I know that post is out of your weight class, but step up!

 

[NBDefektor]

I notice you have completely failed to debate nik's points beyond claiming you were not mattslapped. I know that post is out of your weight class, but step up!

Ok, but if the boss walks in, I'm blaming a guy named darth snow. here we go. ...

 

[MtnBuff]

Tad coached against a team with a number of highly talented players. On his squad he had a severe lack of size with Dufault only playing 20 minutes due to fouls and SHT 10 because he couldn't keep up with the game.

They got killed on the boards in a foreign environment and still managed to pull out a win against a team that had blown them out less than a week ago. I'm drinking the kool-aid and enjoying it. I think Tad could end up as one of those coaches that people all over the country identify with a program for us.

 

[NBDefektor]

Altman had made a big adjustment in the 2nd half the last time we played them by going with a smaller lineup and extending pressure defense to 30 feet. Also mixing in some press. We couldn't handle it and got blown out in the 2nd half.

Last night, Oregon came out with that exact same lineup and game plan. How did we respond? A high shooting percentage and a season best assist to turnover ratio. That's gameplan and coaching, NBD.

The adjustments we made on defense to stay on shooters opened the mid-range (Oregon didn't take advantage) and made the help defense close to the basket. We forced Oregon to either drive or shoot deep with face-up pressure. When you do that, it makes it harder to rebound the defensive glass. We should have done better, but this adjustment made it harder. Tough call, but also the right call to realize that giving up some 2nd shots was worth it if we could make them change their offense so much that Woods was their leading scorer.

On offense, there wasn't really much adjustment needed. Oregon couldn't handle us last time except during their big run when they forced a lot of turnovers with pressure. The mission was to take care of the ball, make the extra pass, and take good shots. For the most part we did that except for a couple stretches. Last 2 times we played, we turned the ball over 15 times each game. This time it was 7.

1st, I am not saying tad coached dreadfully. He just doesn't deserve our high praises. On the oregon press, I agree, we fared MUCH better. Glad to see it. I believe the our defensive gameplay only worked because Oregon was ice cold. The shots they beat us with last one we played ended up being the reason we won yesterday. The shots they missed were WIDE open shots around the three point line. And even as they missed those, we weren't crashing boards and boxing out, leaving numerous putbacks that, he'll, I could've even gotten. Numerous times our o rushed into thIngs and we forced up terrible shots or passes (alley oop pass with 35 seconds to go, anyone?). I like how we push the ball, but tad must tell our Gus to slow it down in certain situations.
Off
ense: no real argument from me. We moved the ball wellspring the most part and cut down on TOs. Nate had some very bad mental goofs tho. yes we won, but the reason for our win was not as much about tad as many have argued in this thread. Sorry for shiitty formatting, iPhone isn't conducive for AB. At least for me.

 

[Buffnik]

1st, I am not saying tad coached dreadfully. He just doesn't deserve our high praises. On the oregon press, I agree, we fared MUCH better. Glad to see it. I believe the our defensive gameplay only worked because Oregon was ice cold. The shots they beat us with last one we played ended up being the reason we won yesterday. The shots they missed were WIDE open shots around the three point line. And even as they missed those, we weren't crashing boards and boxing out, leaving numerous putbacks that, he'll, I could've even gotten. Numerous times our o rushed into thIngs and we forced up terrible shots or passes (alley oop pass with 35 seconds to go, anyone?). I like how we push the ball, but tad must tell our Gus to slow it down in certain situations.
Off
ense: no real argument from me. We moved the ball wellspring the most part and cut down on TOs. Nate had some very bad mental goofs tho. yes we won, but the reason for our win was not as much about tad as many have argued in this thread. Sorry for shiitty formatting, iPhone isn't conducive for AB. At least for me.

Sounds like your complaints are about the way the players executed at times, not about the game plan.

 

[NBDefektor]

Sounds like your complaints are about the way the players executed at times, not about the game plan.

Part of the game plan needs to be tad telling out "get a body on your defender!" or otherwise making it so we rebound better. It also requires hi to tell our guards to slow down occasionally. Again, I'm not saying he coached poorly, just That he didnt coach as great as you guys say he did.

 

[azbuff]

If Tad leaves in the next five (5) years, I will hunt you down Beach Bronco.

NBDefektor: You are a stubborn asshole like me and I think you may have backed yourself into a corner. I was only able to follow the game on gamecast, but I'd say beating a team significantly more talented than you in a conference tournament must have something to do with coaching. Especially because none of the players had what anyone would call a great game.

That said, to win tonight, someone is probably going to have to have a great game. I've yet to see Roberson play out of his gourd. Maybe tonight is the night.

 

[The Guest]

Buffs didn't rebound well, scored only okay and in spurts, but they played hella good defense. Other than the first five minutes or so, they were in the face of every shooter. Sim, Joseph, Singler, were shut down.

Sorry for the momentary threadjack, but I've been really good for the last couple of days.

[video=youtube;SlTvSUCCqPo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlTvSUCCqPo[/video]

 

[NBDefektor]

If Tad leaves in the next five (5) years, I will hunt you down Beach Bronco.

NBDefektor: You are a stubborn asshole like me and I think you may have backed yourself into a corner. I was only able to follow the game on gamecast, but I'd say beating a team significantly more talented than you in a conference tournament must have something to do with coaching. Especially because none of the players had what anyone would call a great game.

That said, to win tonight, someone is probably going to have to have a great game. I've yet to see Roberson play out of his gourd. Maybe tonight is the night.

Nah, screw that, people are thinking I am equating tad Boyle to a hack. He's great and I love what he's doing with our buffs, but last night simply wasn't that great for him.

And ok, I can be a stubborn asshole, especially on teh internets.

 

[NBDefektor]

Oh and I'm a ****ing NICE stubborn asshole, unlike most of the real assholes on this board. You gotta trust me when I say that...:thumbsup:

 

[torero]

The shots they missed were WIDE open shots around the three point line.

This is just flat out wrong. I can think of Joseph missing one open one, and Sim missing one open one (which I'll admit is rare). Oregon was not missing open looks, they were having a difficult time getting contested shots and basically the only reason they were still in the game was offensive rebounding.

 

[dply]

Oh and I'm a ****ing NICE stubborn asshole, unlike most of the real assholes on this board. You gotta trust me when I say that...:thumbsup:

Not everyone here is an asshole. We also have pussies and dicks. You need all three to make allbuffs work.

[video=youtube;32iCWzpDpKs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iCWzpDpKs[/video]

 

[Scotch]

Got killed on the boards sure, but didn't get killed in transition, which was huge. While Dre was gettin beat up down low on the offensive boards, the rest were getting back down the court to play D. Might have been the best defensive effort of the season. That'd be coaching.

It's March 9th and the Buffs are still alive! :thumbsup:

 

[MtnBuff]

This is just flat out wrong. I can think of Joseph missing one open one, and Sim missing one open one (which I'll admit is rare). Oregon was not missing open looks, they were having a difficult time getting contested shots and basically the only reason they were still in the game was offensive rebounding.

^^This^^

And a number of the offensive rebounds were because the shots being thrown up were such clanks that the ball bounced outside the normal rebounding zone over the Buff rebounders heads. Not defending in any way CU giving up as many offensive rebounds as they did but there were a lot of long rebounds due to poor form on contested shots.

 

[RK]

One thing I think the coaches need to coach more is actually putting a body on someone for screens. It doesn't do much when you stand there and move out of the way when the defender comes. Take the chance to ****ing get some contact and stand in there, it will me a huuuge difference on pick and rolls and pick and pops.

 

[sackman]

I have a hard time criticizing the coaching after beating a team that had won something like 8 games in a row. Oregon was probably the hottest team in the conference going into the tournament.

 

[jgisland]

Rialto thanks for the relevant post. I agree tads been great for us this season, but I was only talking about last night. We didn't seem to make any adjustments for rebounding. It came down to our guards and small forwards simply not putting bodies on guys crashing te boards. And it happened ALL night. Nothing was changed. I understand we're a ****** rebounding team as it is, but that was something that should've been addressed early in the 1st half. You guys can rag on me all you want, but tad--in THIS game--didn't coach his best.

If this is truly your opinion of Tad last night than it has to be your opinion of Tad for the season. What happened last night in regards to putting bodies on guys and crashing the boards was not unique for the Oregon game. This is the biggest weakness of this team and also one of the hardest things to coach when you have a guy like Dre who is a very gifted rebounder (and hasn't boxed out once in a CU uniform). Guys get used to Dre always being in the right spot and subsequently aren't as aggressive on the boards and using basketball fundamentals (boxing out, getting big, wide with elbows up) as they should be.

As Buffnik stated Tad's correct decision not to let Sim and Joseph get open and not helping off of them put CU in even worse rebounding position than normal, it also won CU the game.

 

[DBT]

Part of the game plan needs to be tad telling out "get a body on your defender!" or otherwise making it so we rebound better. It also requires hi to tell our guards to slow down occasionally. Again, I'm not saying he coached poorly, just That he didnt coach as great as you guys say he did.

OK. Got it. Boyle forgot to tell his players to "get a body on your defender" and to tell his gaurds to slow it down. Right. Somebody needs to remind Tad how to coach because I'm certain he never told his guys any of that stuff. He must have forgotten what he told the interviewer at the end of the fist half by the time he got to the locker room. He told her "we are getting out of control at times and I need to remind our guys to take better shots." But you are probably right. By the time he got to the locker room he spaced that out and forgot to mention it. And I'm sure that after giving up 11 offensive rebounds in the first half, he didn't mention that at halftime either.

 

[Deleted member 807]

Ok, after last night's game, what exactly did he do? We couldn't rebound, score or defend te three. I love tad, but I don't think last night he did anything special. If Oregon makes even a few of their threes and we don't get a few 3 pointers from our freshmen and carlon, we lose by 12-15. Am I missing something?

Textbook example of missing the forest for the trees.

Back to back 21 win seasons.
Selling out the CEC
Creating a team chemistry where somebody different steps up from game to game
Generously supportive of the fans, the players, and the Colorado community.

The guy is a winner who has done nothing but exceed expectations.

 

[BeachBronco]

Textbook example of missing the forest for the trees.

Back to back 21 win seasons.
Selling out the CEC
Creating a team chemistry where somebody different steps up from game to game
Generously supportive of the fans, the players, and the Colorado community.

The guy is a winner who has done nothing but exceed expectations.

word....

 

[Buffnik]

^^This^^

And a number of the offensive rebounds were because the shots being thrown up were such clanks that the ball bounced outside the normal rebounding zone over the Buff rebounders heads. Not defending in any way CU giving up as many offensive rebounds as they did but there were a lot of long rebounds due to poor form on contested shots.

Also, when their 5 guys are each bigger than the 5 guys we have on the court (probably the case for 90% of minutes last night), rebounding is difficult.

 

[Unleash Hell]

Textbook example of missing the forest for the trees.

Back to back 21 win seasons.
Selling out the CEC
Creating a team chemistry where somebody different steps up from game to game
Generously supportive of the fans, the players, and the Colorado community.

The guy is a winner who has done nothing but exceed expectations.

Don't forget a top 25 recruiting class and all the ranked teams he beat last year. Boyle is special!

 

[azbuff]

Oh and I'm a ****ing NICE stubborn asshole, unlike most of the real assholes on this board. You gotta trust me when I say that...:thumbsup:

Lulz. I'm gonna rep you for sticking to your guns. Assholes stick together.

 

[TimmyDUBs]

NB, you may or may not be right about him being as awesome as we all think he is, but you know his is at least pretty damn good. You can try to point out how we could have lost the game, but you are definitely missing that were the better team on the court last night.

My buddy is a high school coach and Oregon fan, and he said flat out Oregon got outcoached and outplayed.

 

[Denver_sc]

My buddy is a high school coach and Oregon fan, and he said flat out Oregon got outcoached and outplayed.

Oh Yeah? My Dad could beat up your friend! And HE says that Oregon only got outcoached!

 

[Deleted member 807]

NB, you may or may not be right about him being as awesome as we all think he is, but you know his is at least pretty damn good. You can try to point out how we could have lost the game, but you are definitely missing that were the better team on the court last night.

My buddy is a high school coach and Oregon fan, and he said flat out Oregon got outcoached and outplayed.

Yes. And to put this another way, is there another coach in the Pac 12 you'd rather see in Boulder? The only coach that owns Boyle is Stanford's Johnny Dawkins. Is anyone in Buff Nation wanting to trade Boyle for Dawkins? I didn't think so.

Here's another way to look at this. If Boyle were the coach (oh no!) at Oregon, Arizona, UDub, or Cal with the talent that has been assembled within those programs, would those teams be a lock for March Madness? Boyle's upside is huge. Imagine if Boyle could get Booker/Chen/SHT/Dufault passion out of players with the size of players on
Arizona's roster...We might have an answer to that in the next few years. CU'S basketball future is bright.

Now let's beat Cal tonight.

GO BUFFS!

 

[TimmyDUBs]

Oh Yeah? My Dad could beat up your friend! And HE says that Oregon only got outcoached!

When I become supreme king/ruler of the universe you are SOOO not getting a room in my 200 story mansion.

 

[DBT]

I HATE to defend NBD but I don't think he doesn't think Tad is a great coach. He is, wrongly, saying Tad wasn't great last night.

 

[DBT]

Textbook example of missing the forest for the trees.

Back to back 21 win seasons.
Selling out the CEC
Creating a team chemistry where somebody different steps up from game to game
Generously supportive of the fans, the players, and the Colorado community.

The guy is a winner who has done nothing but exceed expectations.

Also, look at Dufault's improvement under Tad.

 

[The Guest]

Lulz. I'm gonna rep you for sticking to your guns. Assholes stick together.

Gross.