Discussion in 'University of Colorado Recruiting Archive' started by Jens1893, Sep 7, 2011.
It seems like the SEC is looking for big, fast and talented players. Under the previous regime I would have said we are not in competition.
It would probably hurt us if they were to emphasize Texas recruiting since they are, after all, the SEC. That said, I doubt many of them change their recruiting because of this. For whatever reason, they don't seem to hit Texas overly hard, not sure A&M being in their division really changes that. There's an absurd amount of good prospects in the southeast as is, they barely have to venture far from home to get blue chip talent.
I can only see this hurting us. With TCU to the Big East and ATM to the SEC, that's 2 more conferences and 20 more schools that now have a toe in Texas.
Helps: CU (PAC in general), SEC (esp Arky and A&M). Hurts: All of the remaining big 12 schools, yes, including UT because it drives a nail into the coffin of the B12 and cements the conference as a 2d tier conference in the minds of the public.
big losers will be teams like ISU, KU, and MU that have gained footholds in Texas for 2/3 star players and account for recent success with past coaches....McCarney, El Grande, and Pinkel. those type of teams are bumped even further down the ladder...though, remains to be seen if they will still be in BCS type leagues or continue to have in-roads in the GSoT.
I don´t mean player type as in what they do on the field, but rather in what they are looking for and where they want to play. It´s another conference that probably will have a closer look at Texas and unlike the Pac, they can offer Texas games.
Question here is, of course, how important those games or a general presence in Texas are to the kids who aren´t hell bent on staying in state or going to Oklahoma. I think Nik touched on this in his blog about how the move is going to affect recruiting.
I find it hard to believe that one game a year against a Texas team would suddenly allow the SEC schools to land Texas players they wouldn't have been able to land before. Texas A&M may have a bump in recruiting as against UT and perhaps OU in that they can now sell in state players on being in the "premier" conference in the nation without having to leave the "premier" state in the nation. As others have said, this will hurt the remaining Big 12 teams who were able to sell up to four games a year against Texas teams to players that want to experience something new without completely cutting ties to the state. Otherwise, I think things look the same: the top in-state talent will choose between UT or A&M if they want to stay in Texas and they'll get the hell out (to wherever) if they want to get the hell out. I don't think that one game a year against A&M is suddenly going to sway that second category of kids to choose a SEC school if they wouldn't have gone SEC otherwise. Marginal effect at best.
As a general rule of thumb, Texas 4 star recruits commit early, and commit as local as possible (in-state or with home games in Texas). Here is the breakdown of ESPN's 62 4+ star recruits in Texas:
5 - Uncommitted
34 - In State Big 12
11 - Other Big 12 (OU, Missou, OK St)
4 - TCU
8 - Other
I was a bit surprised the other day when I saw the list with the number of Texas players on SEC rosters. I would've have thought they hit Texas hard, shows how closely I follow recruiting outside the Buffs. Do the southeast states really have that much talent? I know Florida is amazing, and with as big as football is in the Southeast that hs football would be very good. But never wouldve thought so good as to be the talent for 5 BCS champs in a row, and as dominant as a conference as there can really be.
Tons of talent. After Big 3 of Florida, Texas and California, next is Georgia. Louisiana and Alabama are easily in the top 10, too.
SEC gets the dumb ones, PAC12 gets the smart ones. :thumbsup:
You will not see a huge difference IMO. As Nik points out, there is a ton of talent in the southeast. Recruiting kinda breaks down like this:
Auburn-Georgia and Florida
Arkansas-Texas, Oklahoma, and then all over the place
Bama-More national under Saban, but focused in Alabama, Georgia, Florida, and Memphis
Florida-Florida, Atlantic Coast (North Carolina and Virginia), and then elsewhere
Georgia-Georgia and Florida
LSU-Louisiana, Houston/East Texas
Ole Miss-Mississippi and Memphis
South Carolina-The Carolinas and Florida
Tennessee-Florida and then all over the place
Vanderbilt-Anywhere they can find players to get into school
When Tennessee is good, it's when they are winning recruiting battles in Georgia.
See: Eric Berry
when the per capita D-1 player per population lists in the off-season, Miss and LA are always ranked very high. and Florida cranks em out, obviously.
Some of the recruiting rivalry here is fueled because it's local team against local team. The advertising, apparel shops, etc really push to keep that "us against them" thing going. With A&M moving some of that will fizzle which can open up recruiting, but I don't see a flood of Texas kids running to the SEC just because of A&M. Ultimately kids want to play and get exposure. Whomever is offering the "most" of that will get the kids. Have recently had that conversation with some friends about my own. Their selling point was the SEC exposure moreso than A&M opening up an opportunity to have games played in Texas. Just laughed about it.
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