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MacIntyre talks about spring ball, says they´ll start without a depth chart

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by Jens1893, Mar 5, 2013.

  1. Jens1893

    Jens1893 Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    http://www.dailycamera.com/top-sports/ci_22721517/cu-buffs-will-take-things-slow-first-spring

    And also this

     
  2. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    He is in for a rude awakening. This isn't San Jose St
     
  3. Duff Man

    Duff Man Moderator Club Member Junta Member

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    "I saw a lot of guys running around. Some were big. Some were small. Some were fat. Some were skinny. They all seemed to really want the football on any given play."
     
  4. FLounder

    FLounder The Buffs will rise again! Club Member

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    Reports will come out and he will be flustered.
     
  5. sackman

    sackman Club Member Club Member

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    What's going to happen is some CSU fan will show up and start filming practice.
     
  6. sliderNcider

    sliderNcider MacLovin Club Member

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    It's gonna be the same thing as last time. When they close practices... it's because the fans ruined it and couldn't follow simple instructions
     
  7. dio

    dio Admin Club Member Junta Member

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    As the biggest of these internet sites, I wonder what will happen with us :lol:
     
  8. Creebuzz

    Creebuzz Club Member Club Member

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    So, I'd set the over/under on the closing of practices at three days.
     
  9. Idot Buff

    Idot Buff Club Member Club Member

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    He is dreaming....almost a Hawkins/Embo like hallucination.....not good.
     
  10. Swish

    Swish Half a bubble off Club Member

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    About time to set up the double secret Barzil with a bond that guarantees you are not a university spy to enter the forum
     
  11. El Gringo

    El Gringo Pura Vida Club Member

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    You! --->
     
  12. CUAviator

    CUAviator Well-Known Member

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    Then hopefully he can take a page out of the First Gulf War and use PR to his advantage - give the press enough meat on a daily basis to keep us satisfied so we don't have tot take matters into our own hands. BG can write some good articles and the video dept has shown some good stuff. Maybe even take questions from the spectators at the end of every practice. If he responds = fair to blog. If he says "no comment" = don't blog.
     
  13. zbuff

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    == put up a $10,000 bond. Anyone who does that is a spy.
     
  14. BuffUp

    BuffUp W.T.T.F. Club Member

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    I say we all police ourselves? I want to watch and take my boy to watch practices, let's all be adult like, and keep our traps shut.
     
  15. Uncle Ken

    Uncle Ken Orr no morr Club Member

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    Honest question. Do fans usually have sufficient gridiron analytical ability to really help the enemy?

    Depth charts are public, so it doesn't hurt to say which players are performing well.

    We run certain plays out of certain formations, but that's never a surprise.

    Can someone give me an example of what sort of information might be passed in an off-limits discussion?
     
  16. BehindEnemyLines

    BehindEnemyLines beware the habu Club Member

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    I'm not concerned with this, at this point. I bet the first few practices will be spent on how the staff wants to run a practice; i.e., where to be, when, how quick to do the still(s), move next. The initial practices might be kinda boring.

    Since the O will be different from the previous regimes, I'm sure spring will be spent on the very basics of the playbook. An opponent could prolly glean more from watching film of SJSU.

    Finally, I seem to recall NewMac saying, when hired, that practices would be open unless they felt the need to do otherwise. It shouldn't surprise anyone if they announce that a practice on xxx say will be behind closed doors.
     
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  17. EddieCrowder

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    The smart thing to do in a situation like this is open practice to position drills, basic formation drills etc. (say the first hour of practice) then when you get serious about some things close the second 1/2 of practice.
     
  18. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Club Member Club Member

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    I think it's less about scouting the team or giving away secrets (because, let's face it, any real trick plays are going to be practiced behind closed doors), and more about control of stuff like injury information. In the past, it seemed like the biggest concern of the AD (read: Plati) was that a player would go down with an injury, and it would immediately be broadcast to the world (including "expert" diagnosis.."I got hit like that one time in Jr Varsity, and while i bounced right back, I think he's definitely out for the year!") before the team can make the proper medical evaluation and notify the player's parents.
     
  19. CUFan

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    Bolded. I think this as well. From what he said, he is very focused on discipline. He gave a lot of specifics and I suspect there will be a lot of running until kids get used to it/get it right. His practices sound like they will be the anti-Embree (especially given the reports on how unorganized/undisciplined Embree's practices were).
     
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  20. Gold

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    I just don't know how much this really matters. We kept hearing that Wood has such a grasp on the offense it's ridiculous how much better he is than Hansen. Along with lots of other embellishments (Tony Jones is actually better than Speedy, etc). I want the info, but the pre-season reports have been mostly hot air.
     
  21. leftybuff

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    Pre-season reports are almost always hot air...Phil Jackson has an unreal backpeddle, we have to sit Marques Harris because no one can block him, Lovell Houston's showtime comments...you can go on and on. It is pretty much all hot air. I knew we were in real trouble when the preseason reports shifted to GPA's and power clean number rather than FB skills.
     
  22. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    We need to have this discussion and have an AllBuffs policy on practice reports.

    There is a balance between investing the fans / creating buzz and making sure we don't do anything that compromises the team's ability to maintain the competitive advantages that closing practices might give.

    Here's a start of a list of things that cannot be posted on the AllBuffs football board:

    * Injury speculation. Wait for an official release and then we can comment.
    * Formations/ favorite plays. Let's not give the competition any insight into this kind of thing. And absolutely no photos of this stuff.
    * Special plays for certain players. Using last year as an example, we wouldn't have wanted to tell people about Powell as a feature back.
    * Negativity on how certain players are looking. We have other ways of sharing that stuff among ourselves than the football board.
    * Airing of dirty laundry. If a player's late, gets yelled at by coaches for something, is goofing around during practice, is held out for disciplinary reasons, or even gets demoted on the depth chart - let's not be the first to report it.

    I think we can talk about the energy level, how much hitting they did, positive stuff on who is passing the eyeball test or looks like he has improved, or changes to practice organization versus how previous CU coaches did things (i.e., HCMM has said that he likes to scrimmage as many as 3 units simultaneously in order to get extra work in for everyone).

    I have to think that part of the rationale for open practices is to create a buzz around the program that was missing in the years they have been closed. If it's only about being able to take my pre-teen son to see a CU football practice with an expectation that I'd never talk about what I saw, then HCMM needs to close the practices. People talk about what they see and one of the ways human beings communicate in 2013 is the internet. I'm ok with AllBuffs tightly policing practice report content, but not to the extent of allowing nothing beyond "I was there. It was fun".
     
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  23. SuperiorBuff

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    Should be stickied.
     
  24. Uncle Ken

    Uncle Ken Orr no morr Club Member

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    Whatever you're into, but I'm still waiting for the UHC.
     
  25. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    If I only stickied UHC posts, I'd be dangerously backed up by now.
     
  26. BuffLuKe

    BuffLuKe Club Member Club Member

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    Much ado about nothing. I have a feeling this guy will give us some wins. I don't know him, he's not about bs, that's pretty clear.
     
  27. SINKRATZ

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    I wonder if Mac is one of those guys who puts out a huge bowl of candy at Halloween with a note saying "please take one".
     
  28. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

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    So what comments are allowable? Could we get a little guidance?


    If someone says "Shane Dillon was very accurate today." Is that ok? Or not?

    What if someone says "P-Rich catches everything and still looks fast!" Again - is that ok? Or what?

    If someone says "The OL was opening inch some huge holes" or "The QBs didn't have time to set up from the pass rush" - is that too much info?

    Because to me, none of those comments would be out of line.
     
  29. Uncle Ken

    Uncle Ken Orr no morr Club Member

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    Again, I'd be surprised if many of us have sufficient football acumen to be of any assistance to the enemy.

    Nothing you wrote hurts our team.
     
  30. lawdogg

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    Herein lies the dilemma. Although all of the comments you reference above seem innocuous enough, if this parts from what Big Mac envisions, practices are going to end up closed. I suspect rather than try to create some arbitrary "bright-line" rule, Plati will just say no reports whatsoever, which pretty much defeats the purpose of opening the practices in the first place.
     

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