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NIL: How Does it Work? (Plus transfer rules)
- Thread starter Uncle Ken
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Farm system.
Major league sports will be fine. It's going to be much, much harder for the pipeline of Olympic sports athletes.
I think it would depend on which schools take which Oly sports seriously.
I doubt it will happen, but if all non-P2 leagues/programs drop football as a varsity sport, it will have a massive impact on the NFL. You can't go from a talent pipeline of 130+ D1 programs to 40, 42, or 48 programs and expect to have the same amount of talent filling NFL rosters.
At bare minimum, I think the NFL needs the entire P5 amount of programs (65-70) to legitimately sustain itself and that might even be a stretch.
I think the multi billion operation that is the NFL will rapidly be able to build out a minor league system starting on the framework of the UFL or whatever the current springb league is.
It won't be a one to one replacement, but the pathways and funds are there to figure it out much easier than USATF and swimming etc. will be able to.
Oh for sure. I was responding more to your assertion that pro sports will be fine. I think they certainly will be, but I believe there's a point where the NFL, for example, will have to take action to preserve it's feeder league. I don't think a separate farm system will work. There is/was already the Canadian League, the XFL, AFL, USFL, NFL Europe, etc and that's where NFL players and lesser college players go to die.
I think the long term play from the NFL is ensuring that it's media partners, who also happen to be partners with the P2 in CFB, include more than the 36-48 team super league. The NFL is already in talks with ESPN to acquire a stake in the company. I could totally see the NFL getting involved in the business of college football.
CU Athletics Partners With New 5430 Alliance NIL Collective - University of Colorado Athletics
A merger between two local collectives will give University of Colorado Athletics a powerful new partner in Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) as the 5430 Allia...
Need to be strategic and focused. This seems like a good development.CU Athletics Partners With New 5430 Alliance NIL Collective - University of Colorado Athletics
A merger between two local collectives will give University of Colorado Athletics a powerful new partner in Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) as the 5430 Allia...cubuffs.com
Wonder how involved primes people are in the workings of this.
How much us admin fee?CU Athletics Partners With New 5430 Alliance NIL Collective - University of Colorado Athletics
A merger between two local collectives will give University of Colorado Athletics a powerful new partner in Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) as the 5430 Allia...
CBA without employee status could be the way this goes.
Federal legislation is a damn near certainty at this point. Can't collectively bargain "non-employees" without a carve out from labor laws. Seems like all sides want this, the schools want the athletes to not be employees and the athletes don't want to be employees. They just want a cut of the TV pie.
Why is federal legislation a certainty?
If there is to be collective bargaining, you have to have employees organized under a labor union. Anything else requires a change to Federal labor laws. To get what the schools and players want (collectively bargained revenue sharing) without becoming direct employees of the schools, there has to be a carve out in the labor laws, just like all other pro sports operate under.
A College Athletes’ Rights Group Is Setting Employee Status Aside
On Monday, the College Football Players Association endorsed a collective bargaining model in which athletes remain amateurs.
frontofficesports.com
The above doesn’t answer the question that I’m posed. I understand the need. I just don’t get the sense for the political will in congress to create this setup.If there is to be collective bargaining, you have to have employees organized under a labor union. Anything else requires a change to Federal labor laws. To get what the schools and players want (collectively bargained revenue sharing) without becoming direct employees of the schools, there has to be a carve out in the labor laws, just like all other pro sports operate under.
A College Athletes’ Rights Group Is Setting Employee Status Aside
On Monday, the College Football Players Association endorsed a collective bargaining model in which athletes remain amateurs.
For the right price, congress will do anything
I’m not so sure that this one has legs with the current congressional composition.
Idk. Other than faa reauthorization, I don't think this congress is going to do anything substantive for the rest of its term.
I mean, if you're not going to do anything actually important, why not knock this one out?
Because they can’t agree on anything
Since I overheated on the Nuggets game and need a timeout, I will circle back to this thread to reiterate my idea for a PPP arrangement for CFB that includes the Schools licensing their football programs into professionally operated public-private partnerships with ownership/partnerships with an Operator / Fan Collective / Player Ownership.If there is to be collective bargaining, you have to have employees organized under a labor union. Anything else requires a change to Federal labor laws. To get what the schools and players want (collectively bargained revenue sharing) without becoming direct employees of the schools, there has to be a carve out in the labor laws, just like all other pro sports operate under.
A College Athletes’ Rights Group Is Setting Employee Status Aside
On Monday, the College Football Players Association endorsed a collective bargaining model in which athletes remain amateurs.
Capitalize the programs values to pay for these lawsuits, activate private operations under a stable league with equal playing field, include the fans in a more robust and above board way, and reward players for years of participation in the past, present and future.
Every major CFB team is a Billion Dollar Enterprise or more immediately.
If congress doesn't act, there is no legal way to create the framework both sides want to work under. So no legislation, no solution.
I don't understand how this isn't a violation of the 1A freedom of assembly.
That’s my point. I don’t see the political will to create a solution.
Fair enough. States have already acted before when something with regards to the NCAA starts to affect their schools, so I don't think it is a stretch to say that if the players and NCAA/schools work out a framework, that there are plenty of reps and senators that could implement it into legislation quickly using normal process, especially because it doesn't involve the budget, or immigration, or anything else that is a controversial topic.
Labor laws and collusion, price fixing, etc...