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This is not meant as a shot at anyone in particular. My opinion is one held for a long time but kind of reinforced watching tonight's All Star game. I just think these announcements are pathetic and, frankly, bad for the kids. They almost always look, at the best, bad. It is unfortunate there are no enforceable regulations against them. Frankly, these kids embarrass themselves and become a charicature of all that we hate about " big time" athletics.
 
This is complete nonsense, let the kids be kids. If they picked CU you'd love the format. Have some vodka with those sour grapes, dude.
 
This is complete nonsense, let the kids be kids. If they picked CU you'd love the format. Have some vodka with those sour grapes, dude.
I figured that would be the response. Not true. I view it from a parents perspective and what I would want for my kid. I would feel the same if a kid had announced for CU. My perspective on this goes way back. I hate it and always have. This had little to do with Wee Brown. I really don't care that much.
 
But if we didn't have prime time verbals, we would not have been able to see the reaction of S prospect Landon Collins mom just now when he chose Alabama instead of the hometown LSU. She hit the facepalm; classic.
 
I figured that would be the response. Not true. I view it from a parents perspective and what I would want for my kid. I would feel the same if a kid had announced for CU. My perspective on this goes way back. I hate it and always have. This had little to do with Wee Brown. I really don't care that much.
Dr. Freud would like a word with you...
 
But if we didn't have prime time verbals, we would not have been able to see the reaction of S prospect Landon Collins mom just now when he chose Alabama instead of the hometown LSU. She hit the facepalm; classic.
Seriously?
 
True story. I believe it was mom, and she was not a happy camper. She said as much when asked, with the kid right next to her, "LSU is a better school. Go Tigers!" Awesome.
 
I like that the kids get to have fun with this. Getting to announce your college in primetime on ESPN is pretty ****ing cool.
 
I like that the kids get to have fun with this. Getting to announce your college in primetime on ESPN is pretty ****ing cool.
Seriously? I'm really, disturbed isn't the word, concerned with the direction sports at this level is going. I mean, high schools are now traveling cross country to play games which are televised on ESPN. It is frigging ridiculous. The biggest issue I have with it is the over importance we are placing on sports. Especially with high school aged kids. These guys, many of them anyway, are beginning to see themselves as "stars" while still in high school because "we" are treating thim as stars. But, one, they are generally not mature enough to handle the adoration and, two, they are losing sight of what is really important which is focusing on education. So, now, we are seeing these guys who probably would never qualify to get into a major university not only getting into one but announcing it on national televison. It is absurd.
 
Seriously? I'm really, disturbed isn't the word, concerned with the direction sports at this level is going. I mean, high schools are now traveling cross country to play games which are televised on ESPN. It is frigging ridiculous. The biggest issue I have with it is the over importance we are placing on sports. Especially with high school aged kids. These guys, many of them anyway, are beginning to see themselves as "stars" while still in high school because "we" are treating thim as stars. But, one, they are generally not mature enough to handle the adoration and, two, they are losing sight of what is really important which is focusing on education. So, now, we are seeing these guys who probably would never qualify to get into a major university not only getting into one but announcing it on national televison. It is absurd.
It depends on the kid. Some big time commits, like DoWork's son handles it one way, some handle it like...this.
 
It depends on the kid. Some big time commits, like DoWork's son handles it one way, some handle it like...this.
True dat. I don't want to paint recruits with a broad brush. I do believe that there are many kids in college through sports that probably should not be in college. That does not make them bad kids. I went to college when I was 18 and promptly flunked out. I'd be willing to bet that if I had been a superstar on scholarship that I would not have flunked out.
 
Seriously? I'm really, disturbed isn't the word, concerned with the direction sports at this level is going. I mean, high schools are now traveling cross country to play games which are televised on ESPN. It is frigging ridiculous. The biggest issue I have with it is the over importance we are placing on sports. Especially with high school aged kids. These guys, many of them anyway, are beginning to see themselves as "stars" while still in high school because "we" are treating thim as stars. But, one, they are generally not mature enough to handle the adoration and, two, they are losing sight of what is really important which is focusing on education. So, now, we are seeing these guys who probably would never qualify to get into a major university not only getting into one but announcing it on national televison. It is absurd.

The times they are a'changing.

It's new media, DBT. No different in concept than it's always been with high school player being interviewed, photographed and written about for the local paper. It's just different in scope. Local things have gone national, news cycles have shortened, and exposure has greatly increased with the internet - especially due to Facebook and Twitter.

I think you've drawn some conclusions about academics and the effect this will have on these players which aren't necessarily fair. There have always been athletes who are "too cool for school". Will it make it so that athletes who would otherwise be well-grounded become prima donnas? I doubt it.

I'm a big believer that things like money, power and fame don't change the nature of people. All these things do is exacerbate who we are because they give us an opportunity to act out. The prima donnas will probably be a bit more insufferable. The well-grounded kids will mature more quickly by seeing the circus for what it is and use their spotlight to communicate positive messages. The kids who don't like the spotlight will continue to avoid it.

I don't think the increased media exposure of teenage athletes is good or bad, just different. And different presents new challenges and opportunities.

I will agree with it being bad in one aspect, though. For me to properly cover recruiting for AllBuffs, I end up having to read tweets and facebook walls of 17 year olds. Ugh.
 
The times they are a'changing.

It's new media, DBT. No different in concept than it's always been with high school player being interviewed, photographed and written about for the local paper. It's just different in scope. Local things have gone national, news cycles have shortened, and exposure has greatly increased with the internet - especially due to Facebook and Twitter.

I think you've drawn some conclusions about academics and the effect this will have on these players which aren't necessarily fair. There have always been athletes who are "too cool for school". Will it make it so that athletes who would otherwise be well-grounded become prima donnas? I doubt it.

I'm a big believer that things like money, power and fame don't change the nature of people. All these things do is exacerbate who we are because they give us an opportunity to act out. The prima donnas will probably be a bit more insufferable. The well-grounded kids will mature more quickly by seeing the circus for what it is and use their spotlight to communicate positive messages. The kids who don't like the spotlight will continue to avoid it.

I don't think the increased media exposure of teenage athletes is good or bad, just different. And different presents new challenges and opportunities.

I will agree with it being bad in one aspect, though. For me to properly cover recruiting for AllBuffs, I end up having to read tweets and facebook walls of 17 year olds. Ugh.
That is fair enough. But I believe that there is a huge double standard which is being allowed because of how big the money has gotten. More games are being played with admission standards and high school transcripts than ever because of the big bucks involved. I believe this is a big reason the SEC has become so dominant.
 
Seriously? I'm really, disturbed isn't the word, concerned with the direction sports at this level is going. I mean, high schools are now traveling cross country to play games which are televised on ESPN. It is frigging ridiculous. The biggest issue I have with it is the over importance we are placing on sports. Especially with high school aged kids. These guys, many of them anyway, are beginning to see themselves as "stars" while still in high school because "we" are treating thim as stars. But, one, they are generally not mature enough to handle the adoration and, two, they are losing sight of what is really important which is focusing on education. So, now, we are seeing these guys who probably would never qualify to get into a major university not only getting into one but announcing it on national televison. It is absurd.
bunches of these kids are enjoying their 5 minutes of fame. they will be bagging groceries for us at the local market soon or taking tickets at the traveling midway carnival
 
bunches of these kids are enjoying their 5 minutes of fame. they will be bagging groceries for us at the local market soon or taking tickets at the traveling midway carnival

Sadly, this is all too true for too many of the kids that commit at certain schools and aren't able to make it in the NFL.
 
Sadly, this is all too true for too many of the kids that commit at certain schools and aren't able to make it in the NFL.
You know, this brings to mind something I've thought about in the past. It is too bad that there isn't an option for kids who are not college material but are talented football players coming out of high school. My thoughts were along the lines of a league that offered vocational programs and also competed in football. Of course, the problem is financial. How would it pay? Could it be affiliated with college DII or DIII programs?
 
You know, this brings to mind something I've thought about in the past. It is too bad that there isn't an option for kids who are not college material but are talented football players coming out of high school. My thoughts were along the lines of a league that offered vocational programs and also competed in football. Of course, the problem is financial. How would it pay? Could it be affiliated with college DII or DIII programs?

That's what jcs are for.
 
You know, this brings to mind something I've thought about in the past. It is too bad that there isn't an option for kids who are not college material but are talented football players coming out of high school. My thoughts were along the lines of a league that offered vocational programs and also competed in football. Of course, the problem is financial. How would it pay? Could it be affiliated with college DII or DIII programs?

It's a money issue, DBT. DII gives aid to football players. DIII relaxes admission standards. But athletics isn't a profit center. I played DIII football on a team that finished 3rd in the nation and nearly the entire coaching staff was unsalaried volunteers.
 
It's a money issue, DBT. DII gives aid to football players. DIII relaxes admission standards. But athletics isn't a profit center. I played DIII football on a team that finished 3rd in the nation and nearly the entire coaching staff was unsalaried volunteers.

How many times have you gone to college?
 
The membership on this board is very divergent. You've got some awesome senior posters who bring a ton to the table - then you have threads like this one.
 
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