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As if we needed anything else to get us fired up for the season...
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X is going to have a big year. He was a player who always stepped up big when the games mattered the most. If Tad can get that sort of effort from him every night, we're going to make a LOT of people in the Pac-12 sorry they didn't go harder after him.
I'm reading it as "a lot of people still think of crappy basketball when they think of CU". Thats obviously changing with those in the know, but I bet there are alot of casual fans who only think of UCLA, Arizona and Washington when they think of Pac 12 ball. They probably think that last year was a fluke. They will learn in time, and X sounds like he wants to show them. That is my optimistic take.
This.
And that is what pumps me up. You know, there was a time when no one thought much of Duke basketball either. We gotta start somewhere. Who cares (right now) what people think of CU basketball. X and his buddies are about to help change that perception!
He's a California kid, so I'm sure many of his friends expected him to go to UCLA, Cal, or USC.
BehindEnemyLines
beware the habu
Methinks X-man has a bit of a chip-on-the-shoulder attitude.
CVilleBuff
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Two years of decent basketball and one NCAA bid isn't going to turn the reputation. That's all it means. And, sucking ass in football kind of has created this myth among the Pac that we suck at everything.
My take on his tweet is that he feels that we went after him harder than the CA schools, and he wants to make those schools regret it.
Just like with football. Tweets don't mean ****. Leave it on the floor.
It fascinates me how XJ can be the blame for all of our ills this year while other guys get a complete free pass. XJ was hardly perfect this year, but we're talking about a guy who was 3rd on the team in points per game, 3rd in rebounds a game, third in steals a game, had a higher FG% than the team average and was our second best 3 point shooter. There were only four guys on the team to put up an ORtg of 100 or above, and he was one of them (although Fletch was DAMN close to making it 5).
Was he a headcase this year? Yup. Did he fight through injuries? Yup. But ****, XJ is NOT the reason this team is sitting home right now.
Was he a headcase this year? Yup. Did he fight through injuries? Yup. But ****, XJ is NOT the reason this team is sitting home right now.
aghcsm
Well-Known Member
Define "soon."
CVilleBuff
Well-Known Member
We have a lot of reasons we're sitting home right now. Certainly some main ones I would point to before XJ (I don't need to go into our guard situation), but I'm not necessarily a believer that having some of the better stats on a ****ty team is reason for not taking some flack. An XJ who rose to 15 ppg instead of sliding back to 10 would have been huge. We're looking at a different season if that had been the case.
Thank you! There is a talent defieciency at CU, but XJ does not do the recruiting. He acheived those stats in fewer minutes as well. He is talented, it appears to me that he is frustrated with the slow down offense.
aghcsm
Well-Known Member
I think the frustration with XJ is simply because we expected more, and he seems capable of much more. Maybe the offensive scheme has hurt him, certainly injuries have. He's an easy target because of great talent that's not translating into great results.
aghcsm
Well-Known Member
I'd like to see the stats before-and-after injury, for anyone with convenient access to this information...
We had a whole bunch of guys who stepped back instead of stepping up this year and XJ was just one of them.
It may be that we had better talent than our record but worse leadership than our record.
Most teams need somebody to drive them, to set a standard, to inspire others to play up instead of down.
This doesn't have to be a verbal leader who yell and cajoles, in some cases it can be a guy who visibly excels and who's performance lifts others.
The Mayor wasn't necessarily a vocal leader and he wasn't a guy who was the off court focus but we were a different team with better overall effort when he was playing. This team never seemed to find that this year.
Your best players aren't necessarily those leaders and those leaders don't have to be your best players but they do have to play well enough to be respected. I don't think that XJ is a leader type, Jelly isn't, Ski isn't. The guy we have who could and should be is Dom but he is young and didn't play enough early on to gain that respect. His documented issues as well with tardiness and not always being fully there in practice hurt him.
The good news is that Dom is young and can step up, maybe he gives us that leadership. I have no idea about fortune but he is more experienced and could also help in that regard.
If those guys aren't it then Tad is going to have to find/develop somebody soon. If he can I believe we have the talent to bounce back and make some noise in the PAC next season, if not we could be in big trouble.
It may be that we had better talent than our record but worse leadership than our record.
Most teams need somebody to drive them, to set a standard, to inspire others to play up instead of down.
This doesn't have to be a verbal leader who yell and cajoles, in some cases it can be a guy who visibly excels and who's performance lifts others.
The Mayor wasn't necessarily a vocal leader and he wasn't a guy who was the off court focus but we were a different team with better overall effort when he was playing. This team never seemed to find that this year.
Your best players aren't necessarily those leaders and those leaders don't have to be your best players but they do have to play well enough to be respected. I don't think that XJ is a leader type, Jelly isn't, Ski isn't. The guy we have who could and should be is Dom but he is young and didn't play enough early on to gain that respect. His documented issues as well with tardiness and not always being fully there in practice hurt him.
The good news is that Dom is young and can step up, maybe he gives us that leadership. I have no idea about fortune but he is more experienced and could also help in that regard.
If those guys aren't it then Tad is going to have to find/develop somebody soon. If he can I believe we have the talent to bounce back and make some noise in the PAC next season, if not we could be in big trouble.
Non-adjusted, but here it is:
Decrease in his FG%, 3pt%, and FT%
Increase in rebounds
Assists were about the same
Steals went down
Blocks increased a bit
Turnovers decreased a bit
Points went down by a bit
| FG% | 2P% | 3P% | FT% | TRB | |
| Before | 49.5% | 47.4% | 43.8% | 78.7% | 5.7 |
| After | 43.5% | 50.4% | 31.1% | 51.8% | 5.8 |
| Diff | -12.1% | 6.3% | -28.9% | -34.2% | 1.9% |
| AST | STL | BLK | TOV | PTS | |
| Before | 0.7 | 0.9 | 0.3 | 1.9 | 13.8 |
| After | 0.7 | 0.3 | 0.3 | 1.7 | 8.0 |
| Diff | -3.7% | -63.9% | 8.3% | -9.9% | -41.9% |
Decrease in his FG%, 3pt%, and FT%
Increase in rebounds
Assists were about the same
Steals went down
Blocks increased a bit
Turnovers decreased a bit
Points went down by a bit
SECOBuffsFan
Active Member
Hopefully Josh Fortune has seen what happened this year and wants to put an end to it quickly and becomes the man to take charge
Not all rebounds are the same, but the increase is very marginal. The decreases in his other shooting, steals, and points are not.
aghcsm
Well-Known Member
Thanks, interesting. Is there a stat that accounts for playing time? Don't think XJ started much after the injury in the first Utah game.
aghcsm
Well-Known Member
Pretty much the key to next season IMO