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Bo Ryan retires -- effective immediately

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Wow. Didn't he retire after last season and then change his mind because he didn't want to leave the cupboard bare for his assistant who was going to get promoted to the HC job? I guess it really was time and he wasn't feeling it this season any more.

Great friggin' coach. Right there at the top of the conversation of "best never to win a national championship".
 
Speculation is that Bo wanted to retire after last season and turn the program over to long-time assistant Greg Gard. The problem was that Barry Alvarez wasn't going to let the outgoing coach dictate who his replacement was going to be. Therefore, Ryan came back this year and then quit at the end of the semester to guarantee Gard would get his shot as interim HC over the final 2/3 of the season.
 
Buffnik said:
Speculation is that Bo wanted to retire after last season and turn the program over to long-time assistant Greg Gard. The problem was that Barry Alvarez wasn't going to let the outgoing coach dictate who his replacement was going to be. Therefore, Ryan came back this year and then quit at the end of the semester to guarantee Gard would get his shot as interim HC over the final 2/3 of the season.
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It is, after all, a UW-Madison tradition for the outgoing coach to stick it to Alvarez.
 
Alvarez teaming with Tom Osborn to essentially bully the CFB national championship committee..... This guy is starting to make me hate Wiscy (not Whiskey).
 
Buffnik said:
Speculation is that Bo wanted to retire after last season and turn the program over to long-time assistant Greg Gard. The problem was that Barry Alvarez wasn't going to let the outgoing coach dictate who his replacement was going to be. Therefore, Ryan came back this year and then quit at the end of the semester to guarantee Gard would get his shot as interim HC over the final 2/3 of the season.
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I look forward to Bill Snyder pulling this same move in August of 2016.
 
Buffnik said:
Speculation is that Bo wanted to retire after last season and turn the program over to long-time assistant Greg Gard. The problem was that Barry Alvarez wasn't going to let the outgoing coach dictate who his replacement was going to be. Therefore, Ryan came back this year and then quit at the end of the semester to guarantee Gard would get his shot as interim HC over the final 2/3 of the season.
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Good for Ryan. Alvarez was able to pick his replacement.
 
Duff Man said:
Good for Ryan. Alvarez was able to pick his replacement.
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Yep. And put it this way. If Tad goes on a 14-year run of going to the NCAAs every year, wins 7 conference titles (reg season + tourney) and caps it off with 2 straight Final Four appearances... I'll support whomever he wants to replace him.
 
Buffnik said:
Yep. And put it this way. If Tad goes on a 14-year run of going to the NCAAs every year, wins 7 conference titles (reg season + tourney) and caps it off with 2 straight Final Four appearances... I'll support whomever he wants to replace him.
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Go tell it to Bob Simmons.
 
BuffsNYC said:
Go tell it to Bob Simmons.
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I think that was a problem that created a domino effect of problems. He might have failed here, but then it would have been GB taking over just like he did for Rick and there wouldn't have been the lingering questions of race and B-Mac disappointment in failure to complete his legacy vision.
 
Alvarez micro-managing technique running them off at a record pace. Who could have guessed from a huckster???
 
uncorroborated source states Ryan forced to resign due to an affair with a female staffer 30 years younger than he, and the Bielema resigned for similar reasons. also, "Alvarez is next". Anderson's departure unrelated.
 
hokiehead said:
uncorroborated source states Ryan forced to resign due to an affair with a female staffer 30 years younger than he, and the Bielema resigned for similar reasons. also, "Alvarez is next". Anderson's departure unrelated.
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Assuming it was true, why would UW force Ryan to retire over that? We're not talking about a student here. This is an adult woman in her 30s.

I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a guess that romantic relations between employees of UW is not unprecedented.
 
Buffnik said:
Assuming it was true, why would UW force Ryan to retire over that? We're not talking about a student here. This is an adult woman in her 30s.

I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a guess that romantic relations between employees of UW is not unprecedented.
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Or any other school for that matter, I mean HS too. That **** happens more than people think.
 
Buffnik said:
Assuming it was true, why would UW force Ryan to retire over that? We're not talking about a student here. This is an adult woman in her 30s.

I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a guess that romantic relations between employees of UW is not unprecedented.
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I guess if Presidents can do it....
 
Buffnik said:
Assuming it was true, why would UW force Ryan to retire over that? We're not talking about a student here. This is an adult woman in her 30s.

I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a guess that romantic relations between employees of UW is not unprecedented.
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first, not I disclaimed this as uncorroborated -- the source has credibility and connections, but I don't know the specific connections of his that relayed this info.

but, if the woman was a direct report of his, or even in his reporting structure, I'd suspect that a sexual relationship is a terminable offense. The question of whether or not the university would take action in any specific case could depend on a number of factors: first/repeat offense, threat/concern over pending civil litigation, influence of BMDs, etc..
 
Buffnik said:
Assuming it was true, why would UW force Ryan to retire over that? We're not talking about a student here. This is an adult woman in her 30s.

I'm going to go out on a limb and hazard a guess that romantic relations between employees of UW is not unprecedented.
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As Hokie states a lot of organizations have specific policies regarding relationships between employees in the same part of the organizational structure.

It also is not a big step between having a relationship with somebody and that person getting what could be or be perceived as preferential treatment. Did she get promoted while in the relationship, did he have any influence on her evaluations, did she travel on the department budget when she wouldn't have otherwise had she not been in the relationship? Lots of landmines in these things.
 
I suspect Alvarez of rolling over last year to help get a big 10 team into the football tournament. They were something like 8-2, and ohio st beat them at home 59-0. Ohio St had been 6th in the rankings, but they jumped #3 TCU who had won 52-3. Then football coach Anderson quit after one season for the Oregon St job.

Turned out Ohio St was the best team, but that was strange.
 
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I suspect Alvarez of rolling over last year to help get a big 10 team into the football tournament. They were something like 8-2, and ohio st beat them at home 59-0. Ohio St had been 6th in the rankings, but they jumped #3 TCU who had won 52-3. Then football coach Anderson quit after one season for the Oregon St job.

Turned out Ohio St was the best team, but that was strange.
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I think that what you suspect is a crackpot theory. No AD, coaching staff or players at any program at any level care so much about conference prestige that they're going to throw an opportunity for a conference title away. Wisconsin just got their asses kicked that day, plain and simple. Big game thing where it can snowball (we've seen in in Super Bowls) and in this case they were facing a team that had every reason to keep its foot on the gas.
 
Buffnik said:
I think that what you suspect is a crackpot theory. No AD, coaching staff or players at any program at any level care so much about conference prestige that they're going to throw an opportunity for a conference title away. Wisconsin just got their asses kicked that day, plain and simple. Big game thing where it can snowball (we've seen in in Super Bowls) and in this case they were facing a team that had every reason to keep its foot on the gas.
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We have seen it in conference championship games up close and personal as well, but there were other factors involved in that situation.
 
Buffnik said:
I think that what you suspect is a crackpot theory. No AD, coaching staff or players at any program at any level care so much about conference prestige that they're going to throw an opportunity for a conference title away. Wisconsin just got their asses kicked that day, plain and simple. Big game thing where it can snowball (we've seen in in Super Bowls) and in this case they were facing a team that had every reason to keep its foot on the gas.
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Well, it pissed me off.
 
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