Am I supposed to give a **** what Tim Brando has to say about anything?
Yes-as evidenced by the fact a 4-3 team "won" the conference last year!Pac-12 is arguably the deepest conference in the country.
Lazy take gonna lazy take.
He Works for those partners in the same way Chris Berman works for ESPN... they are both out to pasture at this pointI dunno about you-but if somebody who works for one of this league's TV partners is saying this type of stuff............I'd take it seriously.;
I dunno about you-but if somebody who works for one of this league's TV partners is saying this type of stuff............I'd take it seriously.;
Yes-as evidenced by the fact a 4-3 team "won" the conference last year!
Nobody gives a **** how deep you are if you can't put teams in the CFP consistently.
Why? Because Cincinnati had a good season? Everyone else in that conference had at least 3 losses at the G5 level. What kind of weak ass take is that?I dunno about you-but if somebody who works for one of this league's TV partners is saying this type of stuff............I'd take it seriously.;
So his opinion is ****ing stupid? We agree.
Seems to me like it has been pretty much Bama, Clemson, Oklahoma & Ohio State every year for a while.So his opinion is ****ing stupid? We agree.
And lol at "teams in the CFP consistently." Two conferences have one team making regular appearances, that is it.
No. This conference is a ****ing disaster right now. No playoff bids since 2016. A conference network that more than half the country doesn't have. I know we're all excited for George Kliavkoff........but the proof will be in the pudding.
Seems to me like it has been pretty much Bama, Clemson, Oklahoma & Ohio State every year for a while.
Why? Because Cincinnati had a good season? Everyone else in that conference had at least 3 losses at the G5 level. What kind of weak ass take is that?
And lol at "teams in the CFP consistently." Two conferences have one team making regular appearances, that is it.
I wasn't arguing that.ACC and Big 12 are so ****ing good, Nik.
In a 6 game throwaway season, with no OOC games, rescheduling issues, no fans, etc. There is literally zero precedent to suggest the AAC is a better conference than the Pac 12 and for a respected media member to say it unironically is ridiculousSweet. We had 10 teams as a league finish with 4 losses or more in 2019 and 2017. That's on top of half the league finishing with losing records last year.
Which means the Pac 12 has been playing good football over the last few years? Not what I see.
In a 6 game throwaway season, with no OOC games, rescheduling issues, no fans, etc. There is literally zero precedent to suggest the AAC is a better conference than the Pac 12 and for a respected media member to say it unironically is ridiculous
I wasn't arguing that.
ACC's been the worst conference in the nation + Clemson ever since FSU tanked.
Big 12 is Oklahoma, a few other good teams every year, a Texas that can match talent with anyone but can't get out of its own way too often, and then some bad with KU setting the P5 bottomfeeder standard. Overall, I think it's a good conference that lost its toughness by going pass happy.
No. The Pac-12 is a mediocre football conference without a consistent top ten team. It also is arguably the deepest P5 conference from top to bottom. There are a multitude of issues, mostly self-inflicted, negatively impacting the conference at the moment.
Thus posting a ****ty take from Tim Brando blasting the depth of the conference is ****ing stupid and played out.
Why do you think I cited 2019 and 2017 before that? The quality of play has not been good enough in this conference for years now. 10 teams with 4 losses or more in 2 of the last three normal seasons isn't a sign of a ton of depth-its a sign that the conference as a whole sucks.
When the league didn't play any non-conference games, got to expect about half to finish with losing records.Sweet. We had 10 teams as a league finish with 4 losses or more in 2019 and 2017. That's on top of half the league finishing with losing records last year.
What’s your argument? That the Pac 12 isn’t as nationally relevant as other P5 conferences because they haven’t had a consistent playoff team or that the AAC is better as Brando idiotically claims?Why do you think I cited 2019 and 2017 before that? The quality of play has not been good enough in this conference for years now. 10 teams with 4 losses or more in 2 of the last three normal seasons isn't a sign of a ton of depth-its a sign that the conference as a whole sucks.
I told Schekler this and I'm going to tell you too-2 of the last 3 normal football seasons (2019 and 2017) have seen the Pac 12 put out 10 teams that have lost 4 games or more. That's not a sign you're deep. Its a sign you're not very good.
You should look around the other P5 conferences if this is the argument you are rolling with here.
What’s your argument? That the Pac 12 isn’t as nationally relevant as other P5 conferences because they haven’t had a consistent playoff team or that the AAC is better as Brando idiotically claims?
So you started a thread with a lazy hot take from a middling media member to simply make the argument that the Pac 12 has the lowest national perception among P5 conferences? Thanks for the original take.Bolded it for you.