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Other Games Thread September 1-4 (warning, big weekend, it's a long one)

I haven't looked at the rest of the season, but for week 1, so glad to have big games on Thursdays again. Last few years of Thursday CFB games were not very interesting.
never mind. looking ahead a bit...

week 2 - no FBS Thursday games
week 3 - one FBS game (Ohio vs Louisiana)
week 4 - one FBS game (Marshall vs App State)
week 5 - one FBS game (UVA vs Miami)
week 6 - two FBS games (neither very interesting)
week 7 - one FBS game (App State vs Louisiana)

I quit at that point. After tonight, it looks like we get exactly one more interesting Thursday college game in the first half of the season.

I guess the NFL has effectively destroyed Thursday night college ball. I hate being the college fan whose down on the pros (I am that guy, I just hate being him), but I'm struggling to blame anything other than the pros moving into that slot.
 
never mind. looking ahead a bit...

week 2 - no FBS Thursday games
week 3 - one FBS game (Ohio vs Louisiana)
week 4 - one FBS game (Marshall vs App State)
week 5 - one FBS game (UVA vs Miami)
week 6 - two FBS games (neither very interesting)
week 7 - one FBS game (App State vs Louisiana)

I quit at that point. After tonight, it looks like we get exactly one more interesting Thursday college game in the first half of the season.

I guess the NFL has effectively destroyed Thursday night college ball. I hate being the college fan whose down on the pros (I am that guy, I just hate being him), but I'm struggling to blame anything other than the pros moving into that slot.

Week 6 has Coastal Carolina @ Arkansas State and Houston @ Tulane. Coastal Carolina versus Food Cart and Houston-Tulane could be interesting. Dana Holgorsen is under some pressure to produce results this season. I think you are overlooking those two. I'm not sure what kind of a team Ohio will be like since Solich retired but Louisiana is supposed to have a big year and they might even upset Texas this weekend.
 
Week 6 has Coastal Carolina @ Arkansas State and Houston @ Tulane. Coastal Carolina versus Food Cart and Houston-Tulane could be interesting. Dana Holgorsen is under some pressure to produce results this season. I think you are overlooking those two. I'm not sure what kind of a team Ohio will be like since Solich retired but Louisiana is supposed to have a big year and they might even upset Texas this weekend.
you got me -- I don't follow the Sunbelt or AAC nearly as close as you do. I think it's great to be following "non P5" conferences, but they have to some hook of interest for me (e.g. I follow the MWC fairly closely due to three teams within a 2 hour drive, and a good friend who is a big time Boise St fan).
 
I'll be at the Rose Bowl backing the Pac and the Bruins against LSU. It will be my first time seeing an SEC team and their traveling fans in person. Hoping for a good one and a Pac 12 win.
Nice. Will be interesting to see UCLA's running game against a legit opponent. Looks like Chip has that running on all cylinders but not sure they can do much if that is shut down.
 
you got me -- I don't follow the Sunbelt or AAC nearly as close as you do. I think it's great to be following "non P5" conferences, but they have to some hook of interest for me (e.g. I follow the MWC fairly closely due to three teams within a 2 hour drive, and a good friend who is a big time Boise St fan).

Not trying to write a book but I'll be happy to go in a little detail for why I'm watching more G5/FCS football.

My interest in P5 football outside CU is at an all-time low and I will probably watch the SEC once Oklahoma & Texas gets in for maybe a couple of seasons before the bottom falls out. My plan for this season is to watch one or two good/intriguing P5 games per week and the rest to G5/FCS. The SEC is slowly killing college football as we know it and I was excited about that 12 team playoff proposal but that has been put on the back burner for the sake of college football's future. I have seen this same P5 song and dance for a little over 30 years so I'm taking a break from that while things are unstable and I'm not sure I will be back in that case.

The MWC & MAC appear stale to me. The MWC was fun to watch when Utah, BYU, and TCU were in that conference. If it is possible for the MWC to get rid of their divisions and let BSU play their traditional rivals in Nevada & Frenso State more often, it would be good for the MWC. The only interest I have in the MWC is Air Force. As for the MAC, I don't see it being stronger than the FCS Missouri Valley Football Conference.

The AAC does interest me because of teams like Houston, UCF, and Cincinnati and I'm interested in Navy & Tulane due to option football tendencies of their head coaches. Once the Big 12 inevitably invites them, that conference will be just like another C-USA. Speaking of C-USA, there's always the potential of UTSA being the next Boise State and I'm keeping an eye on Southern Miss because they hired Willie Fritiz's OC from Tulane. Other than that, it's as stale as the MAC and not that high on my viewing priority list.

The Sun Belt is unique because it is more rural than urban as opposed to C-USA & MWC and there appears to be more option orientated football. You got Coastal Carolina, App State, and Georgia Southern who runs some option football. Georgia State & Troy are two other good East teams. In the SBC West, you got Louisiana who is seemingly being billed as this year's Coastal Carolina (from last season). ULM hired Rich Rod as their offensive coordinator and I have loved watching those Rich Rod offenses for years. Arkansas State has been a team that intrigued me for years and South Alabama just opened a new on-campus stadium. Texas State could go crazy this year. That is why sometimes smaller is better when it comes to the size of the conference.

The Missouri Valley Football Conference plays more like the Big Ten but has that 1990's Big 8 vibe. I'd like to see Northern Colorado (UNC) entertain the thought of leaving the Big Sky for this conference even if it means some short term pain on the football field due to their history with the Dakota schools from their D2 days. It was entertaining to see North Dakota win at least a share of the MVFC title in its first year just to upstage their instate rivals in NDSU. Northern Iowa is known to have a tough defense due to who their coach is and they certainly look like they have some rivalries with NDSU & SDSU. Western Illinois is kind of meh to me but Illinois State & Southern Illinois are schools that certainly could G5 if they chose to. Youngstown State was a power in the 1990's much like CU but have fallen on hard times likewise. This conference is just rugged and that would explain why none of those teams reached the FCS championship game despite having five teams in a 16 team playoff this spring.

The Big Sky Conference has a good number of rivalries and that is what makes it appealing. I'm going with UNC as my team for this year but given what I have just discovered about how McCaffrey could be in over his head, I'm glad I am also following the Montana & Idaho schools plus Weber State & NAU. There's Dan Hawkins at UC Davis and that's more than enough reason for me to root against UC Davis. The Big Sky could use some shrinkage in the size of this conference and that is happening with Southern Utah leaving for the WAC after this season. Portland State's football future is iffy and I think they just need to pull the plug but with their options limited, they will just keep playing that sport.

The WAC is back if you haven't heard and they have the defending FCS champs in Sam Houston State. That team was on a mission last year and they were incredible in the FCS playoffs. The WAC is having a challenge with the ASUN since there are enough teams for one automatic FCS playoff qualifier. Central Arkansas (ASUN) and Jacksonville State (ASUN) could make things interesting. Both conferences will sponsor football fully starting next year so it'll be fun to see how those pan out. I'm intrigued by the WAC long term and both conferences are going to hire companies to examine whether they could move up to FBS by the end of this decade. That was before the NCAA announced that constitutional convention so we'll see.

You got to feel bad for the Southland since they lost four Texas schools to the WAC and could lose a fifth (UIW) after this year. That was a fun conference to follow last spring and that could be more fun to watch because there is going to be round robin play in that conference due to the departures. I hope they can find some good replacements out of the D2 ranks if necessary. Nicholls State scored 75 (I think) and then gave up 71 to SHSU...just crazy.

The Southern Conference appears to be a shell of itself after App State and Georgia State moved to the Sun Belt but there are some good teams in that one albeit a little option orientated from those small southern private schools. Mercer and Samford are two schools to keep an eye on in addition to Wofford & Furman. Chattonga State and ETSU are two public schools to keep an eye on.

The Big South could be interesting since there are some newcomers in historically strong HBCU North Carolina A&T joining this year while Keenesaw State is headed to the ASUN next year.

The CAA is still one of the top FCS conferences out there and there is a possibility that James Madison is the next school to move up to FBS especially if the C-USA loses some members in an inevitable G5 realignment scenario. Delawrence did impress me in the FCS playoffs and I remember Joe Flacco playing for them when they were winning I-AA championships. I just wish they didn't renew their contract with FloSports instead of going with ESPN+ and their fans have made it known to the CAA. I'll be able to catch some CAA teams when they play on the road at Big Sky & MVFC teams this season.

SWAC is intriguing due to Deion Sanders at JSU and Eddie George at Tenneessee State. Florida A&M and Bethune-Cookman are two former MEAC schools joining the SWAC this fall. The MEAC appears to be dying after the defections of aFm, BC, and NC A&T.

I didn't get a chance to watch some Ivy League due to COVID-19 but I'm going to check them out this fall. The Pioneer League which has San Diego in it could be intriguing to watch since St. Thomas is a D3 school making the jump to D1 this year and they play at Northern Iowa. Ohio Valley Conference has lost some sizzle after Jacksonville State left for the ASUN and the Northeastern Conference is another conference that gets the meh reaction from me.

I'm going to keep dipping my toes in the D2 waters especially the RMAC, MIAA, and Lone Star Conference. I might have wrote a book on the FCS because that is what I know about the FCS but I'm more interested in the Big Sky, MVFC, WAC, and Southland which is kind of regional.

It's nice to have some variety in football from the P5 to D2 football and the main thing is the ability to watch those games on demand which means I no longer tie my schedule to game like I used to.
 
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Not trying to write a book but I'll be happy to go in a little detail for why I'm watching more G5/FCS football.

My interest in P5 football outside CU is at an all-time low and I will probably watch the SEC once Oklahoma & Texas gets in for maybe a couple of seasons before the bottom falls out. My plan for this season is to watch one or two good/intriguing P5 games per week and the rest to G5/FCS. The SEC is slowly killing college football as we know it and I was excited about that 12 team playoff proposal but that has been put on the back burner for the sake of college football's future. I have seen this same P5 song and dance for a little over 30 years so I'm taking a break from that while things are unstable and I'm not sure I will be back in that case.

The MWC & MAC appear stale to me. The MWC was fun to watch when Utah, BYU, and TCU were in that conference. If it is possible for the MWC to get rid of their divisions and let BSU play their traditional rivals in Nevada & Frenso State more often, it would be good for the MWC. The only interest I have in the MWC is Air Force. As for the MAC, I don't see it being stronger than the FCS Missouri Valley Football Conference.

The AAC does interest me because of teams like Houston, UCF, and Cincinnati and I'm interested in Navy & Tulane due to option football tendencies of their head coaches. Once the Big 12 inevitably invites them, that conference will be just like another C-USA. Speaking of C-USA, there's always the potential of UTSA being the next Boise State and I'm keeping an eye on Southern Miss because they hired Willie Fritiz's OC from Tulane. Other than that, it's as stale as the MAC and not that high on my viewing priority list.

The Sun Belt is unique because it is more rural than urban as opposed to C-USA & MWC and there appears to be more option orientated football. You got Coastal Carolina, App State, and Georgia Southern who runs some option football. Georgia State & Troy are two other good East teams. In the SBC West, you got Louisiana who is seemingly being billed as this year's Coastal Carolina (from last season). ULM hired Rich Rod as their offensive coordinator and I have loved watching those Rich Rod offenses for years. Arkansas State has been a team that intrigued me for years and South Alabama just opened a new on-campus stadium. Texas State could go crazy this year. That is why sometimes smaller is better when it comes to the size of the conference.

The Missouri Valley Football Conference plays more like the Big Ten but has that 1990's Big 8 vibe. I'd like to see Northern Colorado (UNC) entertain the thought of leaving the Big Sky for this conference even if it means some short term pain on the football field due to their history with the Dakota schools from their D2 days. It was entertaining to see North Dakota win at least a share of the MVFC title in its first year just to upstage their instate rivals in NDSU. Northern Iowa is known to have a tough defense due to who their coach is and they certainly look like they have some rivalries with NDSU & SDSU. Western Illinois is kind of meh to me but Illinois State & Southern Illinois are schools that certainly could G5 if they chose to. Youngstown State was a power in the 1990's much like CU but have fallen on hard times likewise. This conference is just rugged and that would explain why none of those teams reached the FCS championship game despite having five teams in a 16 team playoff this spring.

The Big Sky Conference has a good number of rivalries and that is what makes it appealing. I'm going with UNC as my team for this year but given what I have just discovered about how McCaffrey could be in over his head, I'm glad I am also following the Montana & Idaho schools plus Weber State & NAU. There's Dan Hawkins at UC Davis and that's more than enough reason for me to root against UC Davis. The Big Sky could use some shrinkage in the size of this conference and that is happening with Southern Utah leaving for the WAC after this season. Portland State's football future is iffy and I think they just need to pull the plug but with their options limited, they will just keep playing that sport.

The WAC is back if you haven't heard and they have the defending FCS champs in Sam Houston State. That team was on a mission last year and they were incredible in the FCS playoffs. The WAC is having a challenge with the ASUN since there are enough teams for one automatic FCS playoff qualifier. Central Arkansas (ASUN) and Jacksonville State (ASUN) could make things interesting. Both conferences will sponsor football fully starting next year so it'll be fun to see how those pan out. I'm intrigued by the WAC long term and both conferences are going to hire companies to examine whether they could move up to FBS by the end of this decade. That was before the NCAA announced that constitutional convention so we'll see.

You got to feel bad for the Southland since they lost four Texas schools to the WAC and could lose a fifth (UIW) after this year. That was a fun conference to follow last spring and that could be more fun to watch because there is going to be round robin play in that conference due to the departures. I hope they can find some good replacements out of the D2 ranks if necessary. Nicholls State scored 75 (I think) and then gave up 71 to SHSU...just crazy.

The Southern Conference appears to be a shell of itself after App State and Georgia State moved to the Sun Belt but there are some good teams in that one albeit a little option orientated from those small southern private schools. Mercer and Samford are two schools to keep an eye on in addition to Wofford & Furman. Chattonga State and ETSU are two public schools to keep an eye on.

The Big South could be interesting since there are some newcomers in historically strong HBCU North Carolina A&T joining this year while Keenesaw State is headed to the ASUN next year.

The CAA is still one of the top FCS conferences out there and there is a possibility that James Madison is the next school to move up to FBS especially if the C-USA loses some members in an inevitable G5 realignment scenario. Delawrence did impress me in the FCS playoffs and I remember Joe Flacco playing for them when they were winning I-AA championships. I just wish they didn't renew their contract with FloSports instead of going with ESPN+ and their fans have made it known to the CAA. I'll be able to catch some CAA teams when they play on the road at Big Sky & MVFC teams this season.

SWAC is intriguing due to Deion Sanders at JSU and Eddie George at Tenneessee State. Florida A&M and Bethune-Cookman are two former MEAC schools joining the SWAC this fall. The MEAC appears to be dying after the defections of aFm, BC, and NC A&T.

I didn't get a chance to watch some Ivy League due to COVID-19 but I'm going to check them out this fall. The Pioneer League which has San Diego in it could be intriguing to watch since St. Thomas is a D3 school making the jump to D1 this year and they play at Northern Iowa. Ohio Valley Conference has lost some sizzle after Jacksonville State left for the ASUN and the Northeastern Conference is another conference that gets the meh reaction from me.

I'm going to keep dipping my toes in the D2 waters especially the RMAC, MIAA, and Lone Star Conference. I might have wrote a book on the FCS because that is what I know about the FCS but I'm more interested in the Big Sky, MVFC, WAC, and Southland which is kind of regional.

It's nice to have some variety in football from the P5 to D2 football and the main thing is the ability to watch those games on demand which means I no longer tie my schedule to game like I used to.
that was an impressively long post.

I'm glad you're finding enjoyment in these leagues.

you did remind me that Mines has a home game tonight (Western Oregon -- 10 minutes ago I had no idea there was a college known as "Western Oregon"). I'm running down the hill for a couple appointments and just might head over there.


edit: no I'm not. we're leaving tomorrow for the San Juans and i have to finish prepping for a 4 day camping trip.
 
Nice. Will be interesting to see UCLA's running game against a legit opponent. Looks like Chip has that running on all cylinders but not sure they can do much if that is shut down.
Meh. From what I saw, Hawai’i just didn’t practice tackling at all during camp. I guess we’ll see.
 
that was an impressively long post.

I'm glad you're finding enjoyment in these leagues.

you did remind me that Mines has a home game tonight (Western Oregon -- 10 minutes ago I had no idea there was a college known as "Western Oregon"). I'm running down the hill for a couple appointments and just might head over there.

edit: no I'm not. we're leaving tomorrow for the San Juans and i have to finish prepping for a 4 day camping trip.

Western Oregon is from the D2 Great Northwestern Athletic Conference. It was so sad when Western Washington dropped football and Central Washington was a team that could make some FCS teams nervous. They do have a team from Canada in Simon Fraser but that is it for the west coast when it comes to D2 football. It blows the mind when there are just nine D1 California schools while Texas has about two times that.

You could watch that WOU-Mines game on demand if you are up for it.
 
Coastal making it look easy against The Citadel. Good appetizer for games starting soon.
 
Not trying to write a book but I'll be happy to go in a little detail for why I'm watching more G5/FCS football.

My interest in P5 football outside CU is at an all-time low and I will probably watch the SEC once Oklahoma & Texas gets in for maybe a couple of seasons before the bottom falls out. My plan for this season is to watch one or two good/intriguing P5 games per week and the rest to G5/FCS. The SEC is slowly killing college football as we know it and I was excited about that 12 team playoff proposal but that has been put on the back burner for the sake of college football's future. I have seen this same P5 song and dance for a little over 30 years so I'm taking a break from that while things are unstable and I'm not sure I will be back in that case.

The MWC & MAC appear stale to me. The MWC was fun to watch when Utah, BYU, and TCU were in that conference. If it is possible for the MWC to get rid of their divisions and let BSU play their traditional rivals in Nevada & Frenso State more often, it would be good for the MWC. The only interest I have in the MWC is Air Force. As for the MAC, I don't see it being stronger than the FCS Missouri Valley Football Conference.

The AAC does interest me because of teams like Houston, UCF, and Cincinnati and I'm interested in Navy & Tulane due to option football tendencies of their head coaches. Once the Big 12 inevitably invites them, that conference will be just like another C-USA. Speaking of C-USA, there's always the potential of UTSA being the next Boise State and I'm keeping an eye on Southern Miss because they hired Willie Fritiz's OC from Tulane. Other than that, it's as stale as the MAC and not that high on my viewing priority list.

The Sun Belt is unique because it is more rural than urban as opposed to C-USA & MWC and there appears to be more option orientated football. You got Coastal Carolina, App State, and Georgia Southern who runs some option football. Georgia State & Troy are two other good East teams. In the SBC West, you got Louisiana who is seemingly being billed as this year's Coastal Carolina (from last season). ULM hired Rich Rod as their offensive coordinator and I have loved watching those Rich Rod offenses for years. Arkansas State has been a team that intrigued me for years and South Alabama just opened a new on-campus stadium. Texas State could go crazy this year. That is why sometimes smaller is better when it comes to the size of the conference.

The Missouri Valley Football Conference plays more like the Big Ten but has that 1990's Big 8 vibe. I'd like to see Northern Colorado (UNC) entertain the thought of leaving the Big Sky for this conference even if it means some short term pain on the football field due to their history with the Dakota schools from their D2 days. It was entertaining to see North Dakota win at least a share of the MVFC title in its first year just to upstage their instate rivals in NDSU. Northern Iowa is known to have a tough defense due to who their coach is and they certainly look like they have some rivalries with NDSU & SDSU. Western Illinois is kind of meh to me but Illinois State & Southern Illinois are schools that certainly could G5 if they chose to. Youngstown State was a power in the 1990's much like CU but have fallen on hard times likewise. This conference is just rugged and that would explain why none of those teams reached the FCS championship game despite having five teams in a 16 team playoff this spring.

The Big Sky Conference has a good number of rivalries and that is what makes it appealing. I'm going with UNC as my team for this year but given what I have just discovered about how McCaffrey could be in over his head, I'm glad I am also following the Montana & Idaho schools plus Weber State & NAU. There's Dan Hawkins at UC Davis and that's more than enough reason for me to root against UC Davis. The Big Sky could use some shrinkage in the size of this conference and that is happening with Southern Utah leaving for the WAC after this season. Portland State's football future is iffy and I think they just need to pull the plug but with their options limited, they will just keep playing that sport.

The WAC is back if you haven't heard and they have the defending FCS champs in Sam Houston State. That team was on a mission last year and they were incredible in the FCS playoffs. The WAC is having a challenge with the ASUN since there are enough teams for one automatic FCS playoff qualifier. Central Arkansas (ASUN) and Jacksonville State (ASUN) could make things interesting. Both conferences will sponsor football fully starting next year so it'll be fun to see how those pan out. I'm intrigued by the WAC long term and both conferences are going to hire companies to examine whether they could move up to FBS by the end of this decade. That was before the NCAA announced that constitutional convention so we'll see.

You got to feel bad for the Southland since they lost four Texas schools to the WAC and could lose a fifth (UIW) after this year. That was a fun conference to follow last spring and that could be more fun to watch because there is going to be round robin play in that conference due to the departures. I hope they can find some good replacements out of the D2 ranks if necessary. Nicholls State scored 75 (I think) and then gave up 71 to SHSU...just crazy.

The Southern Conference appears to be a shell of itself after App State and Georgia State moved to the Sun Belt but there are some good teams in that one albeit a little option orientated from those small southern private schools. Mercer and Samford are two schools to keep an eye on in addition to Wofford & Furman. Chattonga State and ETSU are two public schools to keep an eye on.

The Big South could be interesting since there are some newcomers in historically strong HBCU North Carolina A&T joining this year while Keenesaw State is headed to the ASUN next year.

The CAA is still one of the top FCS conferences out there and there is a possibility that James Madison is the next school to move up to FBS especially if the C-USA loses some members in an inevitable G5 realignment scenario. Delawrence did impress me in the FCS playoffs and I remember Joe Flacco playing for them when they were winning I-AA championships. I just wish they didn't renew their contract with FloSports instead of going with ESPN+ and their fans have made it known to the CAA. I'll be able to catch some CAA teams when they play on the road at Big Sky & MVFC teams this season.

SWAC is intriguing due to Deion Sanders at JSU and Eddie George at Tenneessee State. Florida A&M and Bethune-Cookman are two former MEAC schools joining the SWAC this fall. The MEAC appears to be dying after the defections of aFm, BC, and NC A&T.

I didn't get a chance to watch some Ivy League due to COVID-19 but I'm going to check them out this fall. The Pioneer League which has San Diego in it could be intriguing to watch since St. Thomas is a D3 school making the jump to D1 this year and they play at Northern Iowa. Ohio Valley Conference has lost some sizzle after Jacksonville State left for the ASUN and the Northeastern Conference is another conference that gets the meh reaction from me.

I'm going to keep dipping my toes in the D2 waters especially the RMAC, MIAA, and Lone Star Conference. I might have wrote a book on the FCS because that is what I know about the FCS but I'm more interested in the Big Sky, MVFC, WAC, and Southland which is kind of regional.

It's nice to have some variety in football from the P5 to D2 football and the main thing is the ability to watch those games on demand which means I no longer tie my schedule to game like I used to.
 

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Crazy play at the end of the 1st half of ECU-App, ECU threw a hail mary into the end zone and it was a jump ball they initially ruled an ECU touchdown but then they somehow reversed it. I'm still not sure who caught that ball after seeing the replay about 5 times.
 
Think tOSU wins this thing, they just have way to much talent, but if this keeps up Minnesota is going to put a scare into them.

Those who took the Gophers and the points should be smiling.
 
Minn is gonna be a problem.

They can run the ball and their D has played well-but a couple of things. One, Ohio State's the Super Bowl for anybody in that league. Minnesota's sky ****ing high for this game. Two, Tanner Morgan is a mediocre QB at best. Focus for us in 2 weeks has to be forcing Morgan to beat us.
 
Hard to believe tOSU is this one dimensional on offense. I suspect they'll be pretty great by the end of the season, but they're a long way away right now.
 
Utah looks unimpressive.

Weber State was one of those teams expected to win the FCS championship last spring. They would have to be jacked up against Utah and the Utes travel to Provo to take on BYU next weekend. I'd cut the Utes some slack in this one.
 
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