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Rick George Extended through 2026
- Thread starter The Alabaster Yak
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Well, to be fair, for the BOR and the casual fan, the “situation” with the football program is that he hired a coach who took them to a bowl game in year one and they just started year two 1-0 winning by 4 TDs. It’s only to the handful of die hard fans that the situation is concerning
Bliff Cranch
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I like RG. We’d be nowhere without him. I can’t think of a better alternative. Why don’t I feel better?
I should have been more specific: it should be concerning to RG.
I’m not convinced that’s the case. Your point is spot on, though. On the surface, the football program looks like it’s in great shape.
RG is a great guy and terrific businessman. And he once was our stellar recruiting coordinator. He honestly believes we are on the right track with HCKD. I hope he is correct. Who knows….maybe we win tomorrow and recruiting will be fixed 
And I shared Bread’s info on the recruiting visit disaster with Rick. He is aware.
And I shared Bread’s info on the recruiting visit disaster with Rick. He is aware.
ahoelsken
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I'd be a lot more "concerned" with the state of the football program if I were a Washington fan right now. He and Dorrell (who did a hell of a job last year-even with the ugly loss in the bowl game) get the benefit of the doubt from me because they've done nothing to show they don't deserve that.
JFC. Give it a ****ing rest.
Bliff Cranch
Well-Known Member
Problems lurk beneath the surface. Recruiting is terrible and unless it’s miraculously turned around, the football program from an on-field performance perspective is in deep trouble.
Go on…RG is a great guy and terrific businessman. And he once was our stellar recruiting coordinator. He honestly believes we are on the right track with HCKD. I hope he is correct. Who knows….maybe we win tomorrow and recruiting will be fixed
You don't give many coaches outside Nick Saban the full benefit of the doubt.
I think RG has done a pretty good job, but I acknowledge the MBB fans here who disagree. I think some of his contract language has been bad in the past. He isn’t infallible but he’s been pretty good. Dorrell has been good in every aspect except recruiting, IMO, but that’s such a major part of the equation that I can’t just dismiss it
because that announcement sure doesn't shout "we have confidence this is our long term guy!"
reading that series of three tweets, he's giving up more in bonus/incentive than he's potentially getting back.
interestingly, it looks like ADRG is in the top ~1/3 of P5 AD total comp. link
Midnight Mel’s contract was poorly written, MM was renewed when he should not have been with poor language in the contract and we flamed on the hiring process and settled for KD. Recruiting has headed straight down and there have been very few signs he or anyone in the AD cares. I hope his contract is as poorly written as some he has agreed to
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
I would agree, and I think the football concerns are valid. The recruiting issue could be solved by winning a game like the one we're playing in 20 hours from now-KD and staff need a signature win they can point to.
I note that Kroll—Kroll!—voted for this contract. I find that kind of strange considering his opposition to George‘s previous contract, where he made the disingenuous argument that athletics money should be spent on academics (maybe it should, but the money wouldn’t be there in the first place without athletics). Now he votes for this contract? I wonder what gives. Maybe he isn’t so adamantly anti-football as he used to be, but I would note that he voted against the HCKD and the HCMT contracts, as well. We don‘t have Shoemaker anymore, and the fact that Rennison voted for the contract is a good sign of future support of athletics from the BOR. Hill was absent, but he would have been a yes vote, so we would have had a 9-0 vote if he was there. Perhaps with Shoemaker gone the days of politicized votes on athletic contracts are behind us? And I still can’t get my head around Kroll—Kroll!—voting for this.
A win like that won’t solve anything. It can help add to the narrative that the staff can coach, but it’s not going to solve a systemic and philosophical problem
He gets paid very well, gets to work the place he most wants to live, has some excellent quality people working with, and gets to make a positive influence on young peoples lives.RG is a great guy and terrific businessman. And he once was our stellar recruiting coordinator. He honestly believes we are on the right track with HCKD. I hope he is correct. Who knows….maybe we win tomorrow and recruiting will be fixed
The downside is that he works for a school that "wants" to win but not bad enough to dedicate the resources and allow things to run in a way that leads to winning big.
At some point though CU is going to have to decide if it is in or out. Does CU athletics slip to complete irrelevance or do we expect to at least be competitive.
At this point I don't know that playoffs and frequent top 10 rankings are even possible. There are a bunch of schools who are in that game at a level that we won't go to.
This doesn't mean that we can't and shouldn't expect frequent trips to lower to mid level bowls and the occasional trip to the CCG with a trip to a major bowl every once in a while in our sights.
What we are doing now won't get that done.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Sure-I'm also not willing to bitch much about a coach who pulled off a bowl bid and built a disciplined enough program to where we didn't lose a game last year because of an outbreak of COVID within our program. I didn't like the way the season ended. Texas kicked our ass because we're not talented enough to compete with somebody like them. That's recruiting-and the only way it changes is by finding a way to win games like the one we're gonna play tomorrow. Utah? Losing four games in a row to them by 17+ has nothing to do with recruiting. There's gotta be more of an emphasis on that game than there's been-we can't get to bowls consistently if we're getting our asses kicked by Utah like we've been.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Taking down a top 5 team would bring a fair amount of positive pub for the program. It starts there.
Get blown out by Utah several years in a row is most definitely recruiting related.
Bliff Cranch
Well-Known Member
Utah hit a grand slam with Whittingham. Leadership, staff, recruiting, stability. They’re on a roll.
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
Sure. Lack of recruiting by staffs (MacIntyre's in particular) who are no longer working here.
KD is recruiting at that same level.
You don't need top five upsets to recruit competently.
yep, recruiting was not great there either. Unless something changes we are at a high water mark this year and next for this staff. It has got to get better. It has to because this effort is abysmal
ahoelsken
Well-Known Member
This season's big-if we take a step back as a team like we did in 2017, the writing's on the wall.