ahoelsken
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JFC get this school the **** out of this conference NOW
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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JFC get this school the **** out of this conference NOW
BerkeleyBuff
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How, from a competitive standpoint? We'd be grouped together with 20+ other schools making the exact same money (and at least another 16+ in the SEC also making as much money), but we'd still be a school with way, way, way less presence in the NIL market.
I think it's so interesting how the patterns how people deal with "betrayal" are all the same.
Well, for all the things you can change with respect to college football (apparently your conference, your rival, etc), you can't change geography. That's CU's best angle at the moment - a physical bridge between two new members and the rest of the league.
We have no annoying tag-along brother (I mean, we do, but not the kind Oregon and Washington have... a non tag-along little brother), are AAU, have (subject to the ongoing debate above) the keys to the Denver TV market and the Mountain timezone, are an attractive road game and a pre-existing base for alumni of all other members. I think our case is okay. I certainly wouldn't trade with about four or five of the other PAC-12 schools at the moment.
I've mostly been day dreaming as to whether BIG money can help us add lacrosse and hockey (has there ever been a better time for hockey based on what's going on in Colorado at the moment).
More likely we are shoved into some frankenstein league with Houston and Memphis and Washington State and still fail to beat them all. But at the moment, perhaps the BIG is in play.
We have no annoying tag-along brother (I mean, we do, but not the kind Oregon and Washington have... a non tag-along little brother), are AAU, have (subject to the ongoing debate above) the keys to the Denver TV market and the Mountain timezone, are an attractive road game and a pre-existing base for alumni of all other members. I think our case is okay. I certainly wouldn't trade with about four or five of the other PAC-12 schools at the moment.
I've mostly been day dreaming as to whether BIG money can help us add lacrosse and hockey (has there ever been a better time for hockey based on what's going on in Colorado at the moment).
More likely we are shoved into some frankenstein league with Houston and Memphis and Washington State and still fail to beat them all. But at the moment, perhaps the BIG is in play.
Depends how you feel about that one Washington team in the 90s and a bunch of Cal teams in the '20s
This is window dressing. “Who can be counted on”? I’ll answer that - nobody. Not a single school can be counted on to not bail the second the B1G comes calling, assuming they do.
I wouldn't dismiss what you are saying but the B1G is now dealing from a position of strength and can add whoever they want to add especially those who fit their AAU/tier 1 research portfolio.
SerenityBuff
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Cal was a powerhouse in the 20s. POWERHOUSE!
Bourbon Buff
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"The tenor of the PAC-12 presidents and ADs call last night was frustration and surprise."
So, some rando in Minnesota knew about this for months, but the brain trusts at large institutions were surprised. I don't feel any better about leadership deftly navigating these choppy waters.
Way to go out on a ledge there and take the contrarian position
And all 10 answered that they are 1000% committed. Kind of like a tweet from a football recruit in July - just holding the spot until a better offer materializes
Indeed they were, and my great-grandfather was in the back field.
Now, they're probably Pac-12 team I would least like to be at the moment...
more i think about it, i guess i would be down with scenario 3 as a backup. if you took the 8 most interesting combined from the 2 leagues and then added 4 somewhat interesting g5 western schools, you'd have something i would watch. you'd go as far east as kansas, maybe keep a foothold in texas with tech and houston-- and then round it out with maybe csu, nevada, boise state, and another.... i would watch that.
So the news is out. Has been out. Was out yesterday.
No posting on Twitter, no email, not a peep from the University or its leadership whatsoever….
I wonder how many days until we get a whiny excuse and pitiful “trust in the Pac” post to be sent via carrier pigeon?
No posting on Twitter, no email, not a peep from the University or its leadership whatsoever….
I wonder how many days until we get a whiny excuse and pitiful “trust in the Pac” post to be sent via carrier pigeon?
Big 12 just did your Scenario 1 for their conference. So I think that takes 2 & 3 off the table with 1, 5 and 4 most realistic. Either the P12 follows the B12 approach, the B1G further expands with western AAUs, or the B12 further expands to try to compete with the B1G & SEC.
Don't worry. I'm sure we'll be able to tune into PACN tonight and see reruns of softball games.
CU Admin. is so far behind the curve on everything else, I wonder why you think the whiny excuse will be delivered in a matter of days.
Heh.
There is a shortage of airline pilots. Fuel prices are at an all time high. Airlines are cutting routes due to the first two.
Good luck to USC UCLA in finding charters and getting your non revenue sports across the country and back on a weekly basis.
Does the size of the media market matter if the region is pro sports focused and wouldn't give a squirt of piss for college sports? Or is it purely about eyeballs regardless of the region really caring? I feel like that's CU, Cal and Stanford. Drive time Bay Area sports radio barely mentioned this amongst all the continued Warriors celebration and Giants sucking eggs conversation. The only whiff of this was from Tom Tolbert in the afternoon only because he played at UA. Did Denver radio even talk about it with all the Avs celebration and endless Bronco coverage?
CU hasn't been competitive in the Pac 12 so I am not sure why people are so up in arms about this. They suck in the Pac 12, but at least they will suck in the BIG with a hell of a lot of money.
I've maintained that none of this matters if the School and AD keeps status quo. That change has to happen for the BIG to even consider CU and for CU to have any type of chance.
Right now, NIL is the shiny new toy that everyone is throwing their money at. It'll take shape like everything else. CU won't compete with that top 10-15, but they didn't before NIL.
I heard a rumor (after I made it up) that our AD was on a committee looking into the possibility of UCLA and USC abandoning the PAC12 at the same time he was on the committee looking into the best way to address NIL money coming into the CFL. We have been so far ahead of everyone else on these issues--at the (made up) committee level, anyway. And really that's all that matters. /s
CU admin didn't even know there was a meeting
Oh, and lets not forget that our next TV contract is now totally ****ed Down to ACC money or worse because of these two asshole programs.
Its basically now the P2/M3/G5
Rivalries need to matter in that scenario. Grab BYU & CSU in addition to SDSU and call it a day.
For as much as I’d like CU to go to the B1G, I’m not sure it is the right move because we couldn’t compete with Texas & OU in the Big 12 and the same thing with U$C in the P12. We won’t be able to compete with Ohio State & Michigan in that case and I think you should throw Penn State & Michigan State in that mix.
We already tried the Big 12 and PAC-12, what would be different about the B1G?
ahoelsken
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These two asshole programs? Stop it. This conference is ****ed. You know why? Go back and look at the last 11 years. CU did this to themselves by joining the Pac 12. An institution that doesn't give a **** about football joining a league full of institutions who don't give a **** about football. And you people wonder why we ****ing suck?
USC AD Hinted At Independence, Later Clarified; But Pac-12 Needs USC
Would USC take its football program independent?
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Should USC consider leaving the PAC-12 and go independent?
Should the USC athletic department consider leaving the PAC-12 conference and going independent? We hear from LA Times sports columnist Bill Plaschke and Trojan athletic director Mike Bohn on the subject.
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ahoelsken
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Why would BYU go anywhere right now? They are in a better league than the Pac 12 right now.
For all the "Mike Bohn is a forward-looking super genius" love I've been seeing since he landed Riley and got USC to the B1G, let's not forget who got CU into the Pac in the first place. I seem to recall that there was smoke around CU to the B1G at that time (wouldn't they have rather had a CU/NU combo in 2011 rather than coming back to the table and taking Rutgers in 2014?), and CU going to the Pac instead of the B1G has been an absolute unmitigated disaster.
ahoelsken
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Yeah let's give him credit for that because its been such a smashing success for CU.