Yep. Not targeting. Refs were correct in calling a personal foul. What CFB needs is a rule change which allows for ejection if a personal foul meets a threshold for flagrant. I was reading that there's an NFL rule but not a college one.
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Those two hits have nothing to do with each other. That's ****ing stupid.
Buddy sent me some funny stats on their stadium:
CSU Stadium: $220MM
Avg attendance: 23k/yr
Total Reported Attendance 2017-2022: 828,322
$/Attendee = $265.60 (pointless but funny)
They are beyond ****ed with those payments. How long will it take until hefty fees are assessed on students to cover for admin incompetence?
CSU Stadium: $220MM
Avg attendance: 23k/yr
Total Reported Attendance 2017-2022: 828,322
$/Attendee = $265.60 (pointless but funny)
They are beyond ****ed with those payments. How long will it take until hefty fees are assessed on students to cover for admin incompetence?
Wasn't sure whether to start a thread for Harrison (I didn't see one).
Many of you know (but I didn't) - he was a track athlete in high school, and didn't start playing football until his senior year. He's very athletic - 11.98 in the 100-meters, 47.49 in the 300-meter hurdles, 5-4 in the high jump, 20-2 in the long jump and 40-2.5 in the triple jump.
And for 6'3", he's not that undersized. Did we stumble into a TE? Looks to me like he could be very good.
Many of you know (but I didn't) - he was a track athlete in high school, and didn't start playing football until his senior year. He's very athletic - 11.98 in the 100-meters, 47.49 in the 300-meter hurdles, 5-4 in the high jump, 20-2 in the long jump and 40-2.5 in the triple jump.
And for 6'3", he's not that undersized. Did we stumble into a TE? Looks to me like he could be very good.
Didn't he first walk on at OLB or something, then move to WR?
I think "stumble" is fair, as long as it comes with acknowledgement that a new sport and a new position yielding success is not luck so much as a player who has worked his ass off along with great coaching.
Also a good illustration of the fact that Prime and his staff are going to keep bringing in highly rated players but the guys on the field will be those who do what it takes to contribute.
I would love to see Sanders reward his work with a scholarship. That would be some quality social media.
There is a flagrant foul rule in the NCAA that results in disqualification but by the definition it is an extremely high bar and wasn't going to get called.
Rule 2-10-3
ARTICLE 3. A flagrant personal foul is illegal physical contact so extreme or deliberate that it places an opponent in danger of catastrophic injury.
Rule 9-1-1
ARTICLE 1. Before the game, during the game and between periods, all flagrant fouls (Rule 2-10-3) require ejection or disqualification. Team B flagrant personal fouls require first downs if not in conflict with other rules.
That Shilo INT reminded me so much of Prime Time. Shilo isn't as fast. But the way he moves, you can tell they are related.
He walked on as a WR.
And that suggests he could add on a bit more weight. But he really isn't that small for a 6'3" tight end.
https://www.buffzone.com/2023/08/20/position-switch-timely-as-michael-harrison-looks-to-help-cu-buffs-injury-riddled-tight-ends/
EDIT: Read the entire article. He was 205. He's now 215. Said his target is 225-230.
The so called “indicator” section suggests a shoulder is also a no no but there is other criteria
In 2008, the NCAA implemented a new rule, saying that "no player shall initiate contact and target an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. When in question, it is a foul." It added that no player shall initiate contact and target a defenseless opponent above the shoulders.
Defenseless players were then defined in various scenarios - but simply put, they were players who had completed their role in a play, or receivers who were concentrating on a ball in mid-air.
An official must answer three questions when he reviews a targeting call:
1. Is the player defenseless?
2. Is there an indicator?
3. Was the crown of the helmet used to make forcible contact on the opponent, or, if the player was defenseless, do we have forcible contact above the shoulders?
an "indicator” according to the NCAA rulebook, are:
Launch: A player leaving his feet to attack by upward thrust of the body in the head or neck area.
Crouch: A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to the head or neck area, even though both feet are still on the ground.
Leading with the helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack the head or neck area forcibly.
Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet.
Targeting: College football's hard-to-define penalty - Southeastern Conference
What is targeting? The least-favorite penalty in college football is difficult to define. The Baton Rouge Advocate explains why.www.secsports.com
By my reading Travis was a.defenseless and the ref had met an indicator criteria both with b. Blackburns movement upwards from a crouching position and again c. The hit with the shoulder
This multi angle clip shows Blackburn enter a crouch just before then thrusting upwards with his shoulder.
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He's great and all. But I don't know about the scholarship. We only have 85 of them.
Unlike the weak-chin dweeb at DNVR Rams, Harrison is probably drowning in a metric ****-ton of ass rn so he’ll be okay for now
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Mike McCabe is a PAC 12 referee and was bottom of the barrel the last few years imo. Moves up this year because the Big 10 hired three PAC referees for next year.
I will post the Actual rule in the rules thread. You and Howell both seemed confused by articles instead of what the rule actually says. I had the same discussion with him on the live chat yesterday.
By definition, it was not a violation of the targeting rule.
We, the fans, stumbled. HE worked his ass off.
Why the thumbs down?
(Maybe forgot the proper front?)
Because the kid has earned a scholarship. And we have extra right now, do we not?
Correct. But I thought the comment was sarcasm. At least that’s the way I took it.
Ah....I didn't catch the font. If it was intended to be sarcasm, I will withdraw my displeasure. The kid is a baller.
Exactly, which is why I mentioned the lack of font…because I thought it was sarcasm, but there was no font change. I was just giving the benefit of the doubt.
Yep...didn't catch your reference. I only on my first cup of coffee.
Get your **** together.
Also, were you tailgating near Farrand on Saturday? There was a Sprinter on the east side of the field.
Yes. The Sprinter was right across from Sackygate, and I was wondering if it was yours.
EDIT: Maybe I'll wander down and find you at 430 for USC, if I'm invited. I love Sackygate, but I don't like having to deal with Ruckus every time; it's exhausting.
So good
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