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Plati-'Tudes Looks Back At Big 12, Forward To Pac-12

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In the final Plati-‘Tudes with CU as a member of the Big 12, associate AD David Plati reminisces, looks ahead, answers questions galore and covers practically everything from A-to-Z in his first edition since last fall.

Originally posted by CUBuffs.com
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Interesting:

I’ve seen a lot of things in this business, but the lies spread about Jimmy Smith leading up to the NFL Draft were perplexing; no one called to fact check (one writer claimed he failed four drugs tests here; well, if you fail three, you miss a season—that’d be tough to hide—and you miss 30 percent of your season with two, and he never missed four games, either). All of a sudden, he’s like the most evil person in the draft; fortunately, he didn’t fall too far with the rumors and landed with the team perhaps the most perfect for him, the Baltimore Ravens. He’s in good hands there with the group of defensive veterans, and he’s already bonded with former CU SID student/grad assistant Patrick Gleason …
 
Plati is as good as they come. I liked the way he finessed the blue shirt issue, in his position I really don't know how he could have done differntly, keeping D II past 11/09 put so many people in a ridiculous dilemma. I could not care less what D II is doing now, nor do I care to see Reilly get any coverage from the AD, that guy will always be a jackass IMO.
 
Q: I see some have ripped you for your estimation of the number of people wearing blue last year at a game, downplaying it and insulting the organizers. Care to explain, because you were way off when you said just 200.
A: Well, I didn’t count personally, a little busy on game day, some of the ops people gave me estimates. They were all over the place: 200, 500, 900. I eyeballed it, and figured it was around 500, but we got word that many parents and others thought that wearing blue was some sort of deal to support the team and had no idea it was to send a message to the coaching staff and administration. So I went with the lower number because of that, and the fact that I was here when we wore blue uniforms and I think it’s an insult to the players in the program who wore those. Many players on the team from 1980-84 feel disconnected enough, to mock them by wearing blue and the message the organizers wanted to convey only continued to add to that. At the spring alumni luncheon this fall, all of one player from the Fairbanks Era returned; we want and need them back.

Bull****, Dave. You smarmy jackass. Don't give me that garbage. You and everybody else knew exactly what the purpose was for the "blue out". Don't revise history. The fact of the matter was that people were pissed. They told you they were pissed and you told them to shut up and take it. Jerk. Stick to being a stat monkey. It's what you do best.
 
Q: I see some have ripped you for your estimation of the number of people wearing blue last year at a game, downplaying it and insulting the organizers. Care to explain, because you were way off when you said just 200.
A: Well, I didn’t count personally, a little busy on game day, some of the ops people gave me estimates. They were all over the place: 200, 500, 900. I eyeballed it, and figured it was around 500, but we got word that many parents and others thought that wearing blue was some sort of deal to support the team and had no idea it was to send a message to the coaching staff and administration. So I went with the lower number because of that, and the fact that I was here when we wore blue uniforms and I think it’s an insult to the players in the program who wore those. Many players on the team from 1980-84 feel disconnected enough, to mock them by wearing blue and the message the organizers wanted to convey only continued to add to that. At the spring alumni luncheon this fall, all of one player from the Fairbanks Era returned; we want and need them back.

Bull****, Dave. You smarmy jackass. Don't give me that garbage. You and everybody else knew exactly what the purpose was for the "blue out". Don't revise history. The fact of the matter was that people were pissed. They told you they were pissed and you told them to shut up and take it. Jerk. Stick to being a stat monkey. It's what you do best.


Why, if you thought fans were wearing blue to show SUPPORT for the team, would you provide a low number for estimated fans wearing blue?? Seems to me if you thought they were wearing blue to SUPPORT the team, you would INFLATE the numbers, to give the impression that there is a LOT of support out there.
 
Why, if you thought fans were wearing blue to show SUPPORT for the team, would you provide a low number for estimated fans wearing blue?? Seems to me if you thought they were wearing blue to SUPPORT the team, you would INFLATE the numbers, to give the impression that there is a LOT of support out there.

I think the implication was that there were 5,000 people in the stands who didn't understand why they were wearing blue. So instead of reporting a somewhat accurate number, they decided that only 200 people actually knew the reason for wearing it, and therefore that's all that needed to be reported.
 
Putting aside the weak Powder Blue rationalization/excuse for a moment...


The best part of this Platitudes was the case for Rodney Stewart to be mentioned in connection with All B12 honors.
I'm actually more pissed about Speedy's snub than about the Powder Blue count.
The good news is that Speedy is still a Buff and gets a chance at all-conference honors in the P12.
 
Putting aside the weak Powder Blue rationalization/excuse for a moment...


The best part of this Platitudes was the case for Rodney Stewart to be mentioned in connection with All B12 honors.
I'm actually more pissed about Speedy's snub than about the Powder Blue count.
The good news is that Speedy is still a Buff and gets a chance at all-conference honors in the P12.

Agreed. I have a bias against Dave Plati anymore. I view anything he says or writes with skepticism. I question his motives. He also comes across to me as a whiny little bitch. But hey, that's just my opinion.
 
I thought it was a great read, if not a little snarky at times.

My impression of what frustrates Sacky so much is that Dave takes a lot of remarks on the webz a little personally and becomes unduly defenisve at times. Okay, he's programmed to take all negative remarks about CU AD personally, because he's the SID. He obviously has more information that we do, and I'm sure many of our remarks come across as purely uninformed to him (Christ knows they seem uninformed to me...and I don't even know what's going at Dal Ward).

Ultimately, fan sites give us a chance to vent frustration. I think they're a good thing, but they can't be taken too seriously--really it's a sad life we live here on Allbuffs. Dave should take us a little less seriously, embrace the technology, and maybe even pity us a little. Allbuffs is a slow death.
 
So how many of you guys wore blue to that game?

I didn't. There was a kid with his family who did (maybe in junior high or a hair younger). I asked him and he got embarrassed because it was just a shirt he had put on. He and his family were down from the Eaton area to support Seth Lobato. Turns out, they had a better reason than most to protest Hawkins... they just didn't know it yet.
 
I didn't. There was a kid with his family who did (maybe in junior high or a hair younger). I asked him and he got embarrassed because it was just a shirt he had put on. He and his family were down from the Eaton area to support Seth Lobato. Turns out, they had a better reason than most to protest Hawkins... they just didn't know it yet.

I'm not really clear how Dave counted the "serendipitous in retrospect" blue shirts, but I think they were part of the 200.
 
I think the implication was that there were 5,000 people in the stands who didn't understand why they were wearing blue. So instead of reporting a somewhat accurate number, they decided that only 200 people actually knew the reason for wearing it, and therefore that's all that needed to be reported.
I have a much more favorable opinion towards Dave in general than Sacky does, but I totally agree with Sacky on this point. Dave really screwed the pooch on this issue, and I don't think he helped himself at all with this bull**** response. Just say ... "I thought the blue shirts were disrespectful towards the team, and I used the lowest number I could to not give them any credence." If he would just say something like that, we could all move on.
 
I have a much more favorable opinion towards Dave in general than Sacky does, but I totally agree with Sacky on this point. Dave really screwed the pooch on this issue, and I don't think he helped himself at all with this bull**** response. Just say ... "I thought the blue shirts were disrespectful towards the team, and I used the lowest number I could to not give them any credence." If he would just say something like that, we could all move on.


No. The appropriate response, in my opinion, would have been something like "At the time, I was doing my best to shield the players from a perceived insult. In hindsight, it was the wrong approach. We were all frustrated with the performance of the team and some people chose to show that frustration in a way that we, as an athletic department, would have prefered they avoid."

He's such a collossal douchebag.
 
No. The appropriate response, in my opinion, would have been something like "At the time, I was doing my best to shield the players from a perceived insult. In hindsight, it was the wrong approach. We were all frustrated with the performance of the team and some people chose to show that frustration in a way that we, as an athletic department, would have prefered they avoid."

That's not bad. But here's my attempt:

"I think it's great CU fans showed up, no matter what color shirt they wore. It's great to have passionate fans. A few blue shirts by some disappointed fans is better than A&M colors and way better than an empty seat.

The next time CU appears headed for another 3-win season, I might break out the powder blue myself.
 
bull****, dave. You smarmy jackass. Don't give me that garbage. You and everybody else knew exactly what the purpose was for the "blue out". Don't revise history. The fact of the matter was that people were pissed. They told you they were pissed and you told them to shut up and take it. Jerk. Stick to being a stat monkey. It's what you do best.
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Here's my attempt:

"Hawkins sucked. Spin control was a nightmare with that fraud coaching the team. I screwed up on this one."
 
I am probably missing something here, but couldn't the AD have issued a statement or something in support of Jimmy before the draft?

You would think if the statements were false, as Plati says they were, that CU could have squashed them pretty quick.
 
I am probably missing something here, but couldn't the AD have issued a statement or something in support of Jimmy before the draft?

My impression from how the Pac-12 expansion played out is that CU does not try to fight things out in the press but conducts its business behind the scenes. That said, I would have hoped they could have gotten Woody or someone else close to the program who has national juice to get the facts out.
 
My impression from how the Pac-12 expansion played out is that CU does not try to fight things out in the press but conducts its business behind the scenes. That said, I would have hoped they could have gotten Woody or someone else close to the program who has national juice to get the facts out.


At least until Plati gets the last word in several months later, long after the issue has been completely overplayed in the media.
 
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