Plenty of OL talent still out there. No need to get panicky just yet, but certainly time to get the ball rolling and hopefully get a few commits in this department sooner rather than later. Not sure why San Diego State would have appeal at this point, playing in front of 20k in 70k capacity Qualcomm must blow -- Buffs must have gone cold on this guy, but who knows what runs through the mind of a 17-18 y/o kid
Ya, maybe. No clue about particulars of Flores's recruitment with Colorado. I'm just pissed that San Diego St could beat us out on 2 OL, one of them being from Colorado. Seems odd that we would go cold on him, after offering him and only having 1 commit at OL.
Not even worried about the process. Because i have looked at the depth for the next 2 years and we are fine in that area.
If we can get
OG- Alex Kozan, OG- Jordan Roos, OT- Walker Williams, OT- Nico Siragusa, OT- Gerald Kough we will be fine for the 2012 recruiting class
2012 Depth
LT- Bakhiari(JR), Lewis(SO), Williams(FR)
LG- Asiata(RFR), Crabb(SO), Kozan(FR)
C- Munyer(SO), Cotner(SO), Kelly(RFR)
RG- Daniewitz(SR), Roos(FR), Handler(SO)
RG- Harris(JR), Mustoe(RFR), Siragusa(FR), Kough(FR)
The OL will be fine.
I honestly think you just look at numbers and as long as there is someone to plug into a spot for the depth chart, that automatically equals depth. It does not work that way.
Not to mention that you continue to throw out random names for this year's class, many of whom will not be coming to Boulder. For the longest time, you were talking up Arthur Flores and went so far as to say he had arguably the highest ceiling of any in-state prospect this year. Now losing him does not matter?
Alex Kozan picking the Buffs would shock me. As for the other players you listed, some of them are good, but the five you listed overall is just an okay group overall, especially with all the OL talent this year. If that is how we are looking on signing day, I am going to be disappointed.
We're still in it for Thurston and Callahan.
I am frustrated with our OL recruiting at this point, but my frustration is focused on Callahan and Thurston. Also, I think we need to see at least one high-level commitment on the OL before the season starts.
Add O'Connor to that list for me. No reason for us to strike out on the top three OL in the state. It's unacceptable to me. I can see losing one, but not all three. O'Connor was always supposedly not very high on CU to begin with. I really don't care if he was or not. The kid is a talented offensive lineman and CU is the premier football program in the state.
I sincerely hope you're right about us still being in the picture for Callahan and Thurston. Flip one of them, get Williams, and possibly Cope-Fitzpatrick, and I'll be extremely pleased. The problem with that scenario is that we'd have to convince two guys to come here who are already comitted elsewhere.
You are wrong, i really like Roos, Williams, Kozan, and we do have good depth with Munyer, Asiata, Harris, Bakhairi on the line. I saw the spring game live inperson, CU is not lacking depth in OL not now not next year. Not the end of the world if we lose a couple of players, because at the end of day it takes 11 players on offense, 11 players on defense, and your special team group to win, not individual so called big name in state recruits. '
Plays alot like like Orlando Franklin, the 2nd round pick of the Denver Broncos. He is a project, just needs to improve his technique, has the power to dominate both in the running game or passing game, even though he is not getting a lot of recognition in the recruiting cycles. This guy might have the highest ceiling among the OL that we recruiting in state.
That wish list has change
Simmons, Cochran, Flores, Calahan, Tuerk,
C/OG- Cochran
ROT/ROG- Tuerk
ROT- Calahan
LOT- Flores
LOG- Simmons
Folks it is still too early. There are still a ton of good players both in HS and in the JUco ranks. Getting Colorado Kids is important but getting the best players and developing players is the most important aspect of recruitinng regardless of what state they come from.
0L- Joey O Oconnor, Arthur Flores, Alex Kozan, Walker Wiliams, Jordan Simmons, Lacey Wetbrook, Travis Averill, Jordan Roos, Austin Maass, Stephon Mccray, Cochran
Not worried, still early. We can still get alot of players that i rate highly.
Flores, Calahan, Thurston, ifedi, Cochran, Dillon, Javon Williams, Conor Crane, Powe,Hamilton, Yuri Wright, Shumate, are still open to schools. I believe it is time to deploy Cabral and EB.
Depending on who does the rankings
Right now i would rank the instate talent as follow
1. Cyler Miles
2. Thurston
3. Flores
4. Calahan
5. Baylis
6. Kozan
7. O conner
8. Hennington
9. Nogard
Flores is big and also athletic. The guy blocks down field and pulls from the LT position. He has the higher ceiling, because he is still growing, Flores is going to be a beast.
Flores-4
Calahan-4
Cochran-5
Dillion 5
Miles-3
Thurston-4
Offense
QB-Bart Houston or Shane Dillion
RB- Catalon, Payne
WR- Powe, Crane, Javon Williams, Deante Gray
OL- Cochran, Lacy Westbrook, Kozan, Calahan, Flores, Ifedi
TE- Macnamara(sp), Baylis
We need about 7-10 OL depending on attrition. 7 minimum, 10 max, plenty of scholarships to go around.
Behrens, Tao, Iltis, Ryan Miller, Adkins, Daniels and Givens could be kicked off the team hopefully he is pardoned. That makes it 7 Ol lost this coming cycle.
In 2012 7 OL will reamain with 3 incoming freshman that will make it 10 OL on scholarship. A good number to have is about 17-20 OL on scholarship, you have to account for attrition and etc.
That's what I meant.This staff flipped 7 guys from other programs in 6 weeks of recruiting for the 2011 class. About 3 of those 6 weeks were dead period when they couldn't call, visit or host. Have faith.
BB
What exactly is your point
I never denied i like Flores, still like him, and we can still get him even if he is not considering us right now. Teenagers do change there minds.
My point is you continuously post the "we're fine because there are lots of players left" mantra every time a prospect goes elsewhere. Your "wish list" for OL has changed weekly and you talk up Flores as an elite OT prospect while rating him the #3 overall prospect in the state, but suddenly you change your stance to "teenagers do change their minds"?
I have little doubt that if the three guys you apparently "really like" at the present moment (Williams, Roos, Kozan) commit elsewhere, you will just find other random names on the offer list to latch onto for a couple weeks.
Recruiting is so much more than a numbers game, as is quality depth.
Teenagers do change there minds. It is not over untill signing day. And what exactly do you want me to do, you want me moan that we lost players or do you want the coaches to moan and stop recruiting other players. There are a ton of good players, recruiting is an ever changing roller coaster, it is far from over.
Some consistency in your posts would be a welcome change. But I will keep the expectations on that front quite low.
Maybe next you can try to explain to me again how TE is not a big need or priority in this class like you did after Jalen Cope-Fitzpatrick committed to USC.