My first thought = mother****er.
After thinking about it, I actually like Smith a little bit more.
After thinking about it, I actually like Smith a little bit more.
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2022 Transfer Portal
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SerenityBuff
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Seriously. Hawaii had a government hearing into the state of its program and coaching staff after having fewer transfers that we've had. Todd Graham's behavior was driving off players there. What's going on at CU?
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One analogy I have is that Dorrell is the Old School Old Man type of coach, that honestly today's spoiled players do not want to hear from. Not everyone is a Nate Landman kind of tough bad-ass player that have discipline and commitment. If it means he gets those kinds of players in, then maybe he has a chance, but I doubt it
In honor of Duff…
Yikes
Yikes
Do you honestly think it’s that easy? It seems like they have a much larger issue than getting to work.
Nope. That’s workload seems about right
steph
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Instead of asking why a particular player is leaving, you have to ask why would anyone stay. Last season anyone with eyes could see that there were major problems with the team, and the response from the coaching staff and AD was to do absolutely nothing different. They have made some decent coaching hires, but if I am a kid looking at adapting to the second or third coaching change in my short college career and with only a couple of years to play, I don't have time to wait for them to turn the ship around. I would jump at a chance to go to a lower tier program where I could actually showcase my talent and maybe have some fun playing football, rather than waste the next few years floundering in Boulder. NIL has nothing to do with it, as most of these guys aren't going to be getting any significant money anywhere.
Just so we’re clearing, entering the portal BECAUSE of the number of coaching changes and adopting to different systems does not make sense.
USC WR Bru McCoy enters the transfer portal
Honestly, after I read your post, the first thing that sprung to mind is the moment a few weeks ago where a reporter (McCall, I think) asked a series of innocuous questions about the offensive line and Dorrel was a complete dick to him. If he knew everyone was watching, and he would talk that way to someone who's kinda sorta a colleague, how does he talk to players behind closed doors?
Also, some of the comments that have filtered through the AD about KD being frustrated that "no one understands his vision for the program" paints a picture to me of someone who is unwilling to listen to valid criticism and probably thinks he's the smartest guy in the room.
Those two things are not a good combo for fostering a good team culture.
NCAA Transfer Portal Tracker: 2021-22 college football season
The transfer portal figures to be extremely busy again this year. Here is a rundown of the Power 5 transfer portal entrants.
Through the CU microscope, the portal looks devastating (and yes, we don’t really have the talent to plug and play), but there’s quite a few teams out there that are hemorrhaging pretty bad as well. USC, Ark.
How about CU in general…the campus, the students, professors, Boulder? Any issues there?
Bliff Cranch
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There are few teams who cannot withstand the impacts of NIL, the portal, etc more than CU. USC, Ark, others will wobble imperceptibly for a month or so. CU is going to die.NCAA Transfer Portal Tracker: 2021-22 college football season
The transfer portal figures to be extremely busy again this year. Here is a rundown of the Power 5 transfer portal entrants.www.on3.com
Through the CU microscope, the portal looks devastating (and yes, we don’t really have the talent to plug and play), but there’s quite a few teams out there that are hemorrhaging pretty bad as well. USC, Ark.
So what exactly are you suggesting? You say they did absolutely nothing response to the problems last season, but fail to mention they turned over 6/10 coaches on staff. You mention how bad it would be if they went through a third coaching change, which means firing Dorrell wouldn’t have helped. You then say NIL has nothing to do with it, so I’m confused as to what this post is even suggesting is the problem or what would have been the solution.
steph
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They aren't entering the portal because of coaching changes. The coaching changes are just a symptom of the deeper problems within the program. They are leaving the program because there is no stability and no realistic chance of things getting significantly better before their eligibility is used up. I am an optimist. I don't think this is a never ending spiral into oblivion for the program, but these kids don't have 5 years for a rebuild.
Has anyone posted (sorry if I missed it) across our numerous threads of how many key players per school, or per PAC12 school even are currently testing the waters?
Was told last night by big booster friend that he's being told "this is happening everywhere"
Was told last night by big booster friend that he's being told "this is happening everywhere"
OsideBuff
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Karl comes across as someone with an attitude..egotistical...and a complete dud as far as an excited ambassador of the program...part of the HC job...is selling YOUR program to boosters..fans..and players. He is AWOL.
When it took him more than 24 hours to apologize for the camera incident..I knew he was or had to he an egomaniac. He should have been FIRED that day...colossal embarrassment to the University..
When it took him more than 24 hours to apologize for the camera incident..I knew he was or had to he an egomaniac. He should have been FIRED that day...colossal embarrassment to the University..
There was a list here a couple of days ago
Yes, no, yes. Under the rules, once a player enters their name in the portal, other schools are free to directly contact that player. The portal rules also eliminated the ability for the current school to block players from transferring to other schools. Many kids enter the portal without knowing if anyone is interested in them, but others know either from direct or indirect contact. Also it would be naive to think schools don't contact kids until they are in the portal. There is always a back channel.
steph
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I am not suggesting there is any single problem or what the solutions are. I was just looking at it as a 20 y/o with a few years of eligibility would look at the situation, and asking why would they stay at CU. To him it doesn't really matter why it has happened, or what should have been done to fix it. It just matters that he finds himself in a dumpster fire with no confidence in the program. Imagine you come in under Tucker with high expectations to a program that looks to be headed in the right direction. For a number of reasons, you end up where the program is today which by anyone's account is a program headed in the wrong direction with not much hope of significant improvement in the next few years, which happen to be the only years you have left to play college football. Why would you stay if you didn't have to? I wouldn't.
hawg1
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Bru…. Uh, hard pass.
I feel that this is a leading question, but IMO this is absolutely an issue as well.
My spouse is getting an advanced degree from a much more academically prestigious institution than CU, and my observation is that the athletes are much more celebrated and there are active efforts to integrated student athletes into the student body. It also is my observation that, generally speaking, the diversity of thought that comes from student athletes, who come from more varied backgrounds than the student body at large, is valued.
I am extremely hesitant to speak to the experience of others, but my perception is that student athletes at CUs campus are isolated and othered by professors and students to a certain extent rather than actively integrated in the student body. I could be (and would be happy to be) wrong about this.
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NCAA Transfer Portal Tracker: 2021-22 college football season
The transfer portal figures to be extremely busy again this year. Here is a rundown of the Power 5 transfer portal entrants.
Through the CU microscope, the portal looks devastating (and yes, we don’t really have the talent to plug and play), but there’s quite a few teams out there that are hemorrhaging pretty bad as well. USC, Ark.
Good point- I assume that USC and Arkansas are in a similar position to CU in struggling to replace the players who are leaving with quality recruits?
I know what you mean by “leading”, but that’s actually not what I was referring to. It was more about the “lack of celebrating athletes”, maybe Boulder is too expensive or isolated, maybe the professors talk ****/subtly jab the sports programs, maybe the athletes don’t like the hippie 420 culture…just wondering.
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