Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by class01, Oct 15, 2016.
Buffs4Life. I'm sure he's as happy about tonight's performance as anyone.
Not Gilbert, but the rest.
The problems with Embree were never about the eye for talent or his love/passion for the Buffs.
I don't think there are hard feelings for Embree from most Buff fans. Certainly not from me. He was just too inexperienced to be the CEO of the program with such poor leadership above him and then to hire inexperienced coordinators.
I think he was done a disservice. He should never have been thrust into that role.
Seriously, hard feelings does not begin to sum it up. This is the guy who tried to bring down the program when he got fired for his performance.
Don't give a crap who was recruited under his brief stint as HC. We are still recovering.
It's all good. We could be coached by Butch Jones.
So, you are saying that the first wise decision MM made was keeping that class together when he first arrived. If I recall, many thought that was his first or second (keeping his coaches) mistake of his tenure. Funny how clear hindsight can be.
As for Embree, I don't think he was put in a position to succeed and didn't help himself out with his assistant choices given his HC inexperience. I also think it was pretty sorry of him to try to stain the university with a racial motive to his firing. I have mixed feelings about his coaching stint and departure.
Love him as a buff, and hope he has found acceptance and happiness. It was a toxic atmosphere and he didnt help that. In the end I view him as the final catalyst to The Rise. After years of mismanagement, poor leadership at the top, and neglect we finally were able to step back and ask what have we let happen here? New dedication and building for the future for all sports, not just patchwork. The entire University is humming right now. Can't appreciate where you're going, if you dont appreciate where ya been. Go Buffs!
You need to ad Hagan to your thanks specific at least to Sefo he wouldnt be here without DH.
Embree is awesome and part of the CU legendary legacy. A true Buff forever. He just wasn't head coach material.
Odd that Embee's last class, during that awful 2012 season, ended up with some really solid guys, and that really highly rated class was more of a dud.
Same think happened with Hawkins - his transition class had 2 first rounders
In spite of all of J Es issues, the guy obviously new how to find good talent, and recruit.
And that should have been his role at CU. Not HC.
*hugs* for Embree
THIS! And the first half at Fresno State----who could ever forget that fiasco/FUBAR? Fresno was nice to keep it under a 100!
Some things are just not forgotten, even if "forgiven."
Ratings should be taken with a grain of salt.
Much like Hawkins, I firmly believe that Embree did what he thought was best for the success of the team that he coached. What he did didn't work, I don't hold that against him.
Thanks so much for bringing up the Embree era. I feel so much better now.
The other similarity was how they handled their relation to the previous regime. Hawkins almost seemed to see CU's past as a threat to his ego and wanted the program to be in his image, showing a lack of respect and almost a hostility to the past (culture and players). Embree was so anti-Hawkins that he ran off Hawkins players and removed anything Hawkins implemented - that it was a Hawkins thing was enough to equal bad & he didn't evaluate changes on their merits despite some being good.
Separate names with a comma.