I think Bufffan68 was assuming an 12-1 UW team would still be ranked higher than an 11-2 CU team.
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Not necessarily. Could drop behind others. Depends on rank. USC, Utah, Stanford & WSU all have paths to pass CU if things break wrong.
Ok. Then what nik said... If CU ends the season at 11-2, they will be playing in the Rose Bowl.
Yes.
Unless chaos happens across the college football landscape and CU gets selected for the playoffs.
Right. So if CU won the P12C, UW could still get picked over CU for the playoff. But CU would have earned being the PAC-12's Rose Bowl representative unless the CFP committee poached CU for the playoff.
CCG champion goes to the Rose Bowl unless invited to the playoff. If the CCG champion goes to the playoff, then it is the next highest ranked team, not the next highest team in the standings.
This thing is going to be in question right to the bitter end.
If we win out, we're going to the Rose Bowl. If we win out the regular season but lose to an unbeaten UW in a respectable fashion, we'll probably still go.
Any other scenario has us at the Alamo Bowl at best - but I'd prefer the Holiday to the Alamo Bowl, personally.
Any other scenario has us at the Alamo Bowl at best - but I'd prefer the Holiday to the Alamo Bowl, personally.
Do you have a source for that? Everything I have seen says that bowl selection is done in order of conference record where the bowl selecting is allowed to choose the team with the best conference record and those within 1-loss of that record. I haven't seen anything that says the CFP rankings enter into the Pac-12 bowl selections.
The 103rd Rose Bowl Game will be held on January 2, 2017 at the Rose Bowl Stadium. The game will feature the champion of the Pac-12 and Big Ten Conference. If the Conference champion is selected to participate in the College Football Playoff Semifinal, the Rose Bowl Game will select the next best team in the conference. The Rose Bowl Game will host a College Football Playoff Semifinal in 2018.
-https://www.tournamentofroses.com/rose-bowl
"By contract with our Pac-12 and Big Ten Conference partners, each of their conference football champions will play in the Rose Bowl Game this year. In the event that either such champion is ranked in the top four in the final CFP ranking, we will then release that team to play in the CFP semi-final game, and the Tournament of Roses will select a replacement team from that conference. The strong presumption is that we will select the next highest CFP ranked team in that conference. Only in extraordinary situations will we deviate from that presumption."
-Scott Jenkins, Rose Bowl Management Committee Chair LINK
In 2016 Iowa and Ohio State were both 1 loss teams in the Big 10. The Rose Bowl committee selected Iowa because they were ranked higher in the final CFP Ranking, so there is precedent.
Bufffan68
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I was thinking we'd be PAC12 champs but still a game behind UW. So I was thinking #1 in the PAC would be the one w the best record, but Nik said the Rose Bowl goes to the winner of the PAC CG...if not selected for the playoffs.
A little tedious but it's sooooo much fun talking about CU in good bowl games
Thanks to S2S for posting it. I've posted it twice in the last 3 weeks or so, so I got lazy and didn't do it again. Not that I expect everyone to hang on every word posted on here, but that was why I didn't link the source.
It's hard for me to find a scenario where CU wins out, UW wins out, CU loses to UW and doesn't go to the Rose Bowl. The only teams we probably need to worry about being higher ranked than CU would be WSU, Utah, and (due to name) USC. In that scenario:
- Utah would be 9-3 (at best) with a loss to Washington and a late-season loss to Colorado
- WSU would be 8-4 (at best) with a loss to Colorado and a late-season loss to UW
- USC would be 8-4 (at best)
That said, the nightmare scenario is for any of those teams to beat UW and CU go to (and lose) the P12 CG. It would definitely open the door for the winner of the P12CG (UW or WSU) to miss the playoffs, which would slot them into the Rose Bowl, and who knows how far CU would fall.
Until Dec 5th, we are all massive UW fans.
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Apologies for getting too far ahead in this saga. One thing you should know about Rosa's back door; once you exit, you'll by dying to get back in.
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This isn't hard people:
The winner of the Pac-12 Championship Game becomes the Pac-12 Champion <<full stop>>.
Ranking doesn't matter,
record doesn't matter,
there is no "tie breaker" other than the score in the game.
The winner of the game is the champion, period.
The Pac-12 Champion plays in the Rose Bowl, unless they are selected for the playoff.
If the Pac-12 champion is selected for the playoff, then the Rose Bowl has said that unless there is strong reason reason not to, they will select the next highest ranking Pac-12 team in the playoff rankings (not the AP poll, not the coaches' poll; the playoff rankings).
The highest ranking team may or may not be the loser of the Pac-12 Championship Game.
Bottom line:
If CU wins out, including the championship game, CU will be the Pac-12 Champions, and will either play in the Rose Bowl or the playoff. No other option is possible if CU wins out.
The only other route to the Rose Bowl requires the championship game winner to be selected for the playoff, and for CU to be the highest ranking team left in the Pac.
The winner of the Pac-12 Championship Game becomes the Pac-12 Champion <<full stop>>.
Ranking doesn't matter,
record doesn't matter,
there is no "tie breaker" other than the score in the game.
The winner of the game is the champion, period.
The Pac-12 Champion plays in the Rose Bowl, unless they are selected for the playoff.
If the Pac-12 champion is selected for the playoff, then the Rose Bowl has said that unless there is strong reason reason not to, they will select the next highest ranking Pac-12 team in the playoff rankings (not the AP poll, not the coaches' poll; the playoff rankings).
The highest ranking team may or may not be the loser of the Pac-12 Championship Game.
Bottom line:
If CU wins out, including the championship game, CU will be the Pac-12 Champions, and will either play in the Rose Bowl or the playoff. No other option is possible if CU wins out.
The only other route to the Rose Bowl requires the championship game winner to be selected for the playoff, and for CU to be the highest ranking team left in the Pac.
I think that Bobby got distracted at times....
He was really bad recently until they gOT him a teleprompter. To be expected with all the lysergic acid diethylamide that has run through
Just got my email for reserving bowl tix. Rose bowl is expensive!
Think I am going to take my chances on the open market for the bowls besides the rose bowl.
curious, how bad?
If Utah beats UW, but we beat Utah, USC wins out, and Nagen crushes Rick with Lucille, what does that mean?
It's almost worth it, just to get rid of Rick.
Jeez...I just got my email for bowl tix as well... Okay, one thing I hadn't considered and I don't think has been discussed is the Cotton Bowl. They take 2 at large bids and historically have had top 10 to top 15 programs in the game. Since it showed up on the reservation form, I assume it's a possibility as well. How realistic is that? Can a PAC-12 program get an at large to the Cotton and take it instead of the Chicken Farm Bowl, let's say? (These bowl names are hysterical, but that's another thread discussion...)
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