CU Buffs' Alec Burks to announce decision Thursday

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Alec Burks has apparently made his decision. The University of Colorado has scheduled a press conference for 2 p.

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[Creebuzz]

If you're projected as the 10th pick, you gotta go pro.

 

[Darth Snow]

lebron much?

 

[JRK1212]

If you're projected as the 10th pick, you gotta go pro.

This is about the 50th time someone has written this in the past month. Can someone enlighten me as to why he absolutley has to go if he's a lottery pick. Four players who would have gone higher then Burks in the draft have already announced there going back to school, I guess no one told them about this flawless allbuffs logic.

 

[Creebuzz]

This is about the 50th time someone has written this in the past month. Can someone enlighten me as to why he absolutley has to go if he's a lottery pick. Four players who would have gone higher then Burks in the draft have already announced there going back to school, I guess no one told them about this flawless allbuffs logic.

If he stays, great. I would never fault a kid for doing that, but from a risk / reward standpoint the smart decision is to take the money now. If he stays, he risks injury, a down season, other kids/deeper draft next season...all of which could impact his draft stock. My belief is when opportunity knocks, you open the door.

 

[JRK1212]

If he stays, great. I would never fault a kid for doing that, but from a risk / reward standpoint the smart decision is to take the money now. If he stays, he risks injury, a down season, other kids/deeper draft next season...all of which could impact his draft stock. My belief is when opportunity knocks, you open the door.

1. The money from going in the 10-15 range is not "that much." It's not like the NFL where a 1st rd rooking contract sets you up for life.
2. What if he's not ready and turns into a bust? Returning to school and improving his game would make it more likely that he turns into a quality NBA player and gets a big pay day down the road.
3.What if there is a lockout? In that case he won't be playing nor will he get paid.
4. He's not going to have a down year. You dont suddenly go from averaging 20 ppg to being terrible especially in basketball which is largely an individual game. I haven't heard anything about next years draft being stronger and even if it is Burks should be a more attractive prospect next year having spent an extra year in college. Injury is a conern but it is highy highly unlikely that he would suffer some kind of career ending injury.

I say come back, you get to play in a new conference, use the new practice facility, enjoy college life for another year before "adulthood", get one step closer to a degree, be the big man on campus and one of the superstars in college basketabll as opposed to sitting on the end of an NBA bench, lead the team to a pac-12 title, improve your game and as a result your nba-rediness and your draft stock, and dont risk being caught in a lockout.

 

[absinthe]

You know everyone thinks you're an idiot.

 

[JRK1212]

You know everyone thinks you're an idiot.

Since you clearly disagree with what I wrote why dont you respond to it and explain how that makes me an idiot (if you can) as opposed to just calling me one. Otherwise your opinion carries no weight.

 

[Creebuzz]

Most of the draft projections I see have him going in the 7 to 14 range, which is $2-$3 million per year for three years guaranteed. Pretty good money if you ask me, even after taxes and agent fees.

 

[Daaah]

He needs another year of college anyway. His game still has some holes. His ball handling and jump shooting need improvement.

 

[GoBuffs!!]

1. The money from going in the 10-15 range is not "that much." It's not like the NFL where a 1st rd rooking contract sets you up for life.
2. What if he's not ready and turns into a bust? Returning to school and improving his game would make it more likely that he turns into a quality NBA player and gets a big pay day down the road.
3.What if there is a lockout? In that case he won't be playing nor will he get paid.
4. He's not going to have a down year. You dont suddenly go from averaging 20 ppg to being terrible especially in basketball which is largely an individual game. I haven't heard anything about next years draft being stronger and even if it is Burks should be a more attractive prospect next year having spent an extra year in college. Injury is a conern but it is highy highly unlikely that he would suffer some kind of career ending injury.

I say come back, you get to play in a new conference, use the new practice facility, enjoy college life for another year before "adulthood", get one step closer to a degree, be the big man on campus and one of the superstars in college basketabll as opposed to sitting on the end of an NBA bench, lead the team to a pac-12 title, improve your game and as a result your nba-rediness and your draft stock, and dont risk being caught in a lockout.

You know everyone thinks you're an idiot.

We may all think he's an idiot, but I have to agree with his analysis here.

Wouldnt fault him for leaving, but he would make a lot more if he prepares himself for the NBA and has a long sucessful carear opposed to a couple years at the end of the bench.

 

[absinthe]

We may all think he's an idiot, but I have to agree with his analysis here.

Here is the thing i don't have to agree with his analysis.

We've talked about this adnaseum his potential is what is getting Alec drafted this high, not his game. If he comes back and doesn't make another leap forward he'll drop to late in the first round at best, that is going to be a huge amount of cash, and particularly guaranteed cash he loses out on. Further more as half dozen or so players ranked ahead of Alec have pulled out of the draft which means he's moved up and they'll all still be in front of him next year. Not to mention whoever is next years josh Selby, and any number of ricky rubio type players who GM's could become enamored with from over seas.

It is incredibly unlikely baring a growth-spurt to 6-8+ that Alec will ever go in the top 5 so now while he's got a 7-14 grade and a significant number of players ahead of you will be in next years draft, you have to go.

 

[Buffnik]

Here is the thing i don't have to agree with his analysis.

We've talked about this adnaseum his potential is what is getting Alec drafted this high, not his game. If he comes back and doesn't make another leap forward he'll drop to late in the first round at best, that is going to be a huge amount of cash, and particularly guaranteed cash he loses out on. Further more as half dozen or so players ranked ahead of Alec have pulled out of the draft which means he's moved up and they'll all still be in front of him next year. Not to mention whoever is next years josh Selby, and any number of ricky rubio type players who GM's could become enamored with from over seas.

It is incredibly unlikely baring a growth-spurt to 6-8+ that Alec will ever go in the top 5 so now while he's got a 7-14 grade and a significant number of players ahead of you will be in next years draft, you have to go.

Exactly.

NBA scouts look at Alec and see several things that make him exceptionally valuable:

1. He can create his own shot. (Rare ability against NBA level competition.)
2. He scores with a lot of efficiency by getting good shots and getting to the line a lot. (Rare ability among NBA scorers.)
3. He scores in the mid-range area. (Rare. Most players score at the rim or from 3. He's got the tough one and the others should develop.)
4. He rebounds well from a position that usually doesn't get you rebounds. (Not just scrambles, but going up among the big guys.)

Then there is one big "potential" thing that raises his value:

1. He may not be done growing and could end up at 6'7" or 6'8", playing the "2" or "3". (Creates significant matchup problems.)

And the things he needs to work on are things that come with effort or coaching or physically maturing:

1. Ball handling skills.
2. Physical strength.
3. Range & consistency with jump shot.
4. Defense.

Unless there is some information about the NBA labor situation or that NBA scouts are telling Burks & Boyle that another year in college would benefit him (that would be unusual, they almost always think that players will progress more with NBA coaching), I really think that this is his time and he needs to go into the League.

 

[GoBuffs!!]

Here is the thing i don't have to agree with his analysis.

We've talked about this adnaseum his potential is what is getting Alec drafted this high, not his game. If he comes back and doesn't make another leap forward he'll drop to late in the first round at best, that is going to be a huge amount of cash, and particularly guaranteed cash he loses out on. Further more as half dozen or so players ranked ahead of Alec have pulled out of the draft which means he's moved up and they'll all still be in front of him next year. Not to mention whoever is next years josh Selby, and any number of ricky rubio type players who GM's could become enamored with from over seas.

It is incredibly unlikely baring a growth-spurt to 6-8+ that Alec will ever go in the top 5 so now while he's got a 7-14 grade and a significant number of players ahead of you will be in next years draft, you have to go.

A couple extra mill in a signing bonus is peanuts compared to a long term carear in the NBA. The arguement that JRK i believe was making is a extra year in college would allow him to have a greater chance to have a long carear in the NBA

 

[Shldr2Shldr]

A couple extra mill in a signing bonus is peanuts compared to a long term carear in the NBA. The arguement that JRK i believe was making is a extra year in college would allow him to have a greater chance to have a long carear in the NBA

In the end it doesnt really matter if he leaves now or if he waits another year (barring a major injury or a down year)

-It will be good for CU basketball either way
-We actually seem to have some good talent coming in and the system we run isnt difficult to understand; Run, Shoot, Rebound, Defend and Repeat.
-I think given a summer being coached by an NBA staff will get him plenty prepared to play
-If there is a lockout he still gets paid, he talked about being able to take out a very large loan solely based on his future income. Thats why he doesn't care about the lockout.
-If he is a top 15 pick then he has to go, the money there is that much better. Plus its living a life long dream of his. I dont know how many of us could turn that opportunity down if we were in his shoes, so its hard to imagine a 19 year old turning it down either.
-College is fun but i am sure him making this decision with the stresses of finals and projects and stuff like that isn't making him want to stay right now.


We will be fine without burks. The talent coming in looks good. I was skeptical at first but the more I look at the incoming players and the transfer kids that can now play the more confident I am that this team won't miss him so much. It's Levi that we are going to have trouble replacing.

 

[SCB]

You know everyone thinks you're an idiot.

:lol:

 

[tante]

1. The money from going in the 10-15 range is not "that much." It's not like the NFL where a 1st rd rooking contract sets you up for life.

not that much to donald trump, I think it is about a 1.5 million difference 6 million versus 4.5 million. That is pretty significant and 6 million can set you up for life.

2. What if he's not ready and turns into a bust? Returning to school and improving his game would make it more likely that he turns into a quality NBA player and gets a big pay day down the road.

what guarantees that he will be drafted higher or more ready for the NBA if he stays? Do the words Richard Roby ring a bell, if he left after his sophomore year, he would have been a 2nd round pick, now he is playing in Isreal or something. Maybe he improved so much they were worried for the safety of the other NBA players.

3.What if there is a lockout? In that case he won't be playing nor will he get paid.

but he will still have a guaranteed contract, just delayed in getting the money. He might even be able to play overseas to get a paycheck AND improve his game (according to your point #2)

4. He's not going to have a down year. You dont suddenly go from averaging 20 ppg to being terrible especially in basketball which is largely an individual game. I haven't heard anything about next years draft being stronger and even if it is Burks should be a more attractive prospect next year having spent an extra year in college. Injury is a conern but it is highy highly unlikely that he would suffer some kind of career ending injury.

and your crystal ball also tells you that teams won't start rolling coverage over to his side because of what. This year Higgins/Levi were able to keep teams honest, now since we don't have another PROVEN scorer, teams are going to gamble by double and triple teaming Burks.

I say come back, you get to play in a new conference, use the new practice facility, enjoy college life for another year before "adulthood", get one step closer to a degree, be the big man on campus and one of the superstars in college basketabll as opposed to sitting on the end of an NBA bench, lead the team to a pac-12 title, improve your game and as a result your nba-rediness and your draft stock, and dont risk being caught in a lockout.

If you get a really good offer after you finish school remember that advice and stick around for your masters/phd degree, improve your mind and your work-force readiness.

 

[Buffnik]

Another factor that we don't put enough weight on is the fact that we're talking about someone so young when we're discussing the decision to turn pro early. Some guys feel like they're ready for living that pro lifestyle of being on the road constantly, having peers that are as much as 15 or more years older than them, having the responsibilities and obligations that go with being a celebrity professional, etc.

Some guys feel like they're ready for all that and some want to put it off a year so they can enjoy another year of college. That's something we can't know about the person. Even those closest to him would have trouble knowing for sure what was in his head with all that.

 

[prime teets]

If you get a really good offer after you finish school

not gonna happen

 

[chipwich]

Bye, Alec. Thanks for two great years.