So maybe we dont fire MM because it apparently cost $12m (scroll up to Duff's post). Do we shake up the staff? Clean it out completely?
I see a lot of defenders trying to arm tackle and not wrapping up their target.
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So maybe we dont fire MM because it apparently cost $12m (scroll up to Duff's post). Do we shake up the staff? Clean it out completely?
I see a lot of defenders trying to arm tackle and not wrapping up their target.
Slider is an idot
that's not how it will work. first, i think we have more than a decent chance at a bowl next year if he is back. the weedwhacker bowl or something...
second, his narrative will be that he took CU to bowl games in 2 of the last 3 years, including a title game, despite "all the obstacles" here.
he will be looking for his exit after next year. i don't want lame duck coaches. be here or don't.
You take so much pride in this team losing slider... you are worse than your dumb**** brother
A mutual parting would be in everyone's best interest at this point.
Except Mac's wallet.
Last year happened. So did this year. Ugh.
There are certainly some bad AD's out there. But really? Only twice has he gotten to 6 wins in a season.
I will write a check. Time to move on
DrunkPanda
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I was thinking the same sort of thing, except not with Miles, with some stud offensive/defensive coordinator in a power 5 conference. Pony up and give him a big contract and tell him he's the head coach, not head coach in waiting, the head coach. Make sure that everyone knows MacIntyre is now just the figurehead, due to not wanting to pay his buyout. Either cause MacIntyre to resign in embarrassment or keep him on so that the money we owe him is spread out over a multi-year period rather than paid out in a lump sum which would hurt the current budget
CitizenKane
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I think we need a thread on locker room problems. If you know coaches or players on the team then you are probably already getting told directly or getting a sense.
Ughhhh
With the firing of Mike Riley at Nebraska, it is very possible that Les Miles would consider coming back to coaching and would bring his son with him from Nebraska, where he is a freshman redshirt FB. The idea of letting LSU pay his salary for two years while we pay off Mac is not the worst idea at all, and although I think Miles has problems, he could elevate us to at least another more successful level.
LES MILES BUYOUT
There seems to be a lot of misconception about Les’ buyout from LSU, so I’ll attempt to clarify how it works.
Les’ contract runs through December 2019 (3 years, 3 months from now). By contract, if he is terminated, his buyout is paid out monthly over a period of time double the remaining term…thus, he’ll be paid out over 6 years, 6 months.
His stated buyout is $12.9 million; but by contract you reduce from that any amounts paid to him in this calendar year.
Les makes $4.3 million per year plus bonuses. Depending on what has already been paid in calendar 2016, that is what sets his buyout.
For illustrative purposes, let’s assume 9/12s have been paid, thus approximately $3.2 million.
So, his stated buyout was $12.9 million, less the $3.2 paid in 2016. Hence, Les will be paid approximately $9.7 million over the next 6 years, 6 months.
Assuming Les does not accept further work, he would receive approximately $125,000 / month for the next 6 years, 6 months.
To the extent he accepts any other job, the amount LSU owes would be reduced dollar for dollar.
There seems to be a lot of misconception about Les’ buyout from LSU, so I’ll attempt to clarify how it works.
Les’ contract runs through December 2019 (3 years, 3 months from now). By contract, if he is terminated, his buyout is paid out monthly over a period of time double the remaining term…thus, he’ll be paid out over 6 years, 6 months.
His stated buyout is $12.9 million; but by contract you reduce from that any amounts paid to him in this calendar year.
Les makes $4.3 million per year plus bonuses. Depending on what has already been paid in calendar 2016, that is what sets his buyout.
For illustrative purposes, let’s assume 9/12s have been paid, thus approximately $3.2 million.
So, his stated buyout was $12.9 million, less the $3.2 paid in 2016. Hence, Les will be paid approximately $9.7 million over the next 6 years, 6 months.
Assuming Les does not accept further work, he would receive approximately $125,000 / month for the next 6 years, 6 months.
To the extent he accepts any other job, the amount LSU owes would be reduced dollar for dollar.
BuffaloB
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I guess CU needs to decide what they want to be. If they are ok with finishing 5th or 6th with an occasional 3rd or 4th in PAC 12 South, attending the Potatoe bowl every 4 or 5 years and recruiting classes south of 50-60 every year then keep him. If they want to be a real football program they need to significantly upgrade.
CU regents may hate paying out 12 million buyout to a bad coach, but how bad will they feel trying to pay 150$ million in new facility bonds with the athletic program bleeding $$ due to a awful football program.
That extension for HCMM will haunt this program and university if the board is not willing to buy it out. In the mean time, the university, athletic program and the fan base needs to decide what we are and what we really want to be. IMHO.
CU regents may hate paying out 12 million buyout to a bad coach, but how bad will they feel trying to pay 150$ million in new facility bonds with the athletic program bleeding $$ due to a awful football program.
That extension for HCMM will haunt this program and university if the board is not willing to buy it out. In the mean time, the university, athletic program and the fan base needs to decide what we are and what we really want to be. IMHO.
Yeah, he might be able to get it done... How many 6+ win seasons do you see?
2001 | 4–7 | 2–6 | 5th (South) | ||
2002 | 8–5 | 5–3 | T–3rd (South) | W Houston | |
2003 | 9–4 | 5–3 | 3rd (South) | L Cotton | |
2004 | 7–5 | 4–4 | 5th (South) | L Alamo |
2005 | LSU | 11–2 | 7–1 | 1st (Western) | W Peach | 5 | 6 |
2006 | LSU | 11–2 | 6–2 | T–2nd (Western) | W Sugar† | 3 | 3 |
2007 | LSU | 12–2 | 6–2 | 1st (Western) | W BCS NCG† | 1 | 1 |
2008 | LSU | 8–5 | 3–5 | 3rd (Western) | W Chick-fil-A | ||
2009 | LSU | 9–4 | 5–3 | 2nd (Western) | L Capital One | 17 | 17 |
2010 | LSU | 11–2 | 6–2 | T–2nd (Western) | W Cotton | 8 | 8 |
2011 | LSU | 13–1 | 8–0 | 1st (Western) | L BCS NCG† | 2 | 2 |
2012 | LSU | 10–3 | 6–2 | T–2nd (Western) | L Chick-fil-A | 12 | 13 |
2013 | LSU | 10–3 | 5–3 | 3rd (Western) | W Outback | 14 | 14 |
2014 | LSU | 8–5 | 4–4 | T–4th (Western) | L Music City | ||
2015 | LSU | 9–3 | 5–3 | T–3rd (Western) | W Texas | 17 | 16 |
DrunkPanda
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I don't want Miles, I think he has lost his coaching fire. Those last few seasons at LSU didn't inspire any confidence in me, I think he would be another Fairbanks. A good coach that just doesn't care anymore, leading to disaster
Want to know more...
DrunkPanda
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Good job running Montez right into the middle of the line on 3rd and short.... that is always the specialty of any quarterback
If CU fired Mac, CU wouldn't have to pay him a lump sum. CU would simply have to go on paying his current contract.
Unless they negotiated a compromise.
He could, and would, probably get hired at a G5, and whatever they paid him would be deducted from what CU owed him. I don't think he would negotiate a **** you contract with the new school like Pelini did when he got fired (100k a year until the NU money ran out).
So it might not actually be that terrible of a budget hit.
Especially if Les was willing to sign an FU contract until his LSU money runs out.
Unless they negotiated a compromise.
He could, and would, probably get hired at a G5, and whatever they paid him would be deducted from what CU owed him. I don't think he would negotiate a **** you contract with the new school like Pelini did when he got fired (100k a year until the NU money ran out).
So it might not actually be that terrible of a budget hit.
Especially if Les was willing to sign an FU contract until his LSU money runs out.
ahoelsken
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Lol so 9 and 10 win seasons aren't good enough for you? You sound like a Nebraska fan.
ahoelsken
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Hard pass on any G5 coach not named Blake Anderson or Chad Morris.