rodrigo
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Tell me which of those two statements is reality and which, at this point given the state of CFB, is wishful thinking?
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Karl Dorrell officially named Colorado HC
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Tell me which of those two statements is reality and which, at this point given the state of CFB, is wishful thinking?
4thGenBuff
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Instagram posts on Karl Dorrell.
He looks like a Class act.
He looks like a Class act.
PAC MAN
Tekken Masher.
Let me look for the emergency kool-aid air drop for you.
Translation?
I’ve heard a few people talk about how KD might bring “stability” to the program, but what does that even mean in the context of what this program needs right now? Are we unstable? Not really. Sure our coach left unexpectedly but programs go through coaching changes all the time and I wouldn’t define that as some widespread instability in the program. MacIntyre pretty much stabilized this program from the depths of the Hawkins and Embree years - we need someone who can elevate the program from sub-mediocrity, can Dorrell do that?
When I hear people here talk about stability all it sounds like to me is they like having a coach who isn’t some rising star that might leave us in a couple years and that’s a bad reason to hire a guy IMO.
You mentioned the opinion of people on the Miami Dolphin message board and I was sort of relating that to our message board. Maybe I should have just posted as a stand alone post rather than as a response to your post. Sorry.
Exactly - Tucker left us in the lurch, but Macintyre stabilized the program over 6 years. We hare healthy financially (not flush with cash, but not deep in debt), not under any sanctions, have new facilities, good incoming recruiting class, no major player attrition.....
Your post is exactly right.
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I'm not so down on this hire as most people seem to be. I'm skeptical as I am with all new coaches and will take a wait and see attitude, but I trust RG and LC know more and better than we do and I'm cautiously optimistic for this new era. Like many have stated, we've had ONE winning season in the last 14 years. This program needs stability, steadiness, INTEGRITY and leadership. I can't wait to see the staff he puts together and what they can do this spring and next fall.
letsgoavs192
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If Chev stays and we keep the class together I feel just fine
If he leaves I am prepared for 3 years of 2-10
Appears RG was so "hurt" by Mel Tucker leaving at such an inopportune time that he reacted by:
1. Needing to feel the next coach was a "Colorado guy" who wouldn't be such a pussy.
2. Way overpaying him to counter perceived damage Mel Tucker did by making us look like have-nots.
Note to Rick:
1. Good coaches come from everywhere. If you limit your field to Colorado guys, we are back to the mind trust that brought us Embree
2. The money would have been better used to attract top assistants. The statement you made lasted 20 seconds, but the contract lasts a long time.
And like Chris Fowler, I'll remain optimistic. It could work and be a home run.
1. Needing to feel the next coach was a "Colorado guy" who wouldn't be such a pussy.
2. Way overpaying him to counter perceived damage Mel Tucker did by making us look like have-nots.
Note to Rick:
1. Good coaches come from everywhere. If you limit your field to Colorado guys, we are back to the mind trust that brought us Embree
2. The money would have been better used to attract top assistants. The statement you made lasted 20 seconds, but the contract lasts a long time.
And like Chris Fowler, I'll remain optimistic. It could work and be a home run.
I'd maybe buy this if he didn't offer Sark.
Are we really going to do this? I promised DBT I would never get off his lawn if he said the next coach "cares about the players" or "bleeds black and gold." I'm gonna do the same for every one of you chuckleheads who gives his opinion of KD based on what he says to the press.
JFC, it's like you guys think Neuheisal is the "Joe Pa of Colorado" and Tucker thinks CU is a destination program.
Just stop it.
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To me "stability" is McCartney vs Neu. MacIntyre vs Tucker. Someone who is willing to stick around and build a program for as long as their success will let them stay rather than someone who will immediately parlay ANY amount of success at CU (even if it's just 5-7) into a "better" gig. I don't see that as necessarily a bad thing. To each his own, though.
Johnny Stevens
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I would say 3 coaches in 3 years would not be considered a stable program.
You take your opinion, add it to a quote, and then spin out a "fact" in the form of a rhetorical question. Masterfully done. If you live in CO, pleaser run for the Board of Regents, CU needs you.
NuggNinja
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If the search was really limited to guys with CU connections they wouldn’t have interviewed and reportedly offered Sarkisian the job. That’s just post hiring spin.
And they did increase the assistant coach pool money too.
They probably gave him what the counter offer was going to be for Tucker. Maybe they could have offered him less but I think eliminating the perception that CU is one of the cheapest schools when it comes to coaches salaries matters.
That stat is only a reality because Tucker left after one season, so do you believe Mel Tucker single handedly de-stabilized this program? That all the things dio mentioned above are irrelevant to one bad guy leaving us so soon??
Again if that’s the case you’re overreacting and are searching for someone who won’t leave us too quickly and is a terrible reason to hire a coach.
If MacIntyre fits your definition of stability and you want someone who won’t jump ship at the first hint of success, why did we fire MacIntyre? He sounds like exactly what you want.
A college football coach should be able to talk about recruiting with ease because it is a huge part of the job. Full stop.
somebody
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This makes zero sense. First, it would be a loss but he's not irreplaeable, just at what level. Then, of course, we're rolling with his recruits for the next 3 years. And it's not like his coaching is giving us 4 wins to keep us bowling. Please explain.
Consistency of what?
Johnny Stevens
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I think that stability of a program is based around either being consistently competitive (making bowl games) and/or having a stable coaching situation.
I think almost all programs search for the opposite of their previous coach if something like MT situation happened or the coach is fired. MT was pretty much the opposite of MacIntyre and Dorrell is the opposite of MT.
SerenityBuff
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Few things matter less than what a coach says in a press conference.