Also, HCMT wore shorts in AZ.
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Mike and Mel
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That’s by one person lol
ahoelsken
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Jimbo is the only active HC outside of Saban/Swinney with a championship. That's way off-base
Also Les now. It’s a very short list.
ahoelsken
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Forgot about that. Still-Jimbo's a hell of a coach.
This Air Force love fest is getting a little crazy. Are they a tough matchup because of their offense? Of course. But to say they are a harder matchup than Fresno, who has won their division and the conference in the last two years is ridiculous. They do a good job when they play power five teams and losing close to Minnesota and usc doesn’t mean they aren’t a good team.
Nobody said Fresno isn’t a good team, but why does the reason AFA is a tough matchup matter? We lost to them at home. Very tough matchup. Fresno literally can’t be a tougher matchup than that and I just believe the uniqueness of AFA’s offense was tougher to deal with than Fresno will be even if Fresno might be a more talented team.
WarBuff
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Emphasis on shorts! Now had he worn jorts, how would you feel?
WarBuff
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RG wasn’t the only one with that feeling after the OSU game.
Air Force is a team the buffs should have beaten. I don’t know if it was a hangover from Nebraska, the team/coaches were unprepared, the bye week for Air Force, but there is no way that should have been a loss with the athletes this team has on offense.
Fresno on the other hand is more talented and has proven they can beat good teams. Even if the buffs do play well the can still lose, if they don’t it could get ugly.
vinniew_11
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Chop blocking all game long is a different ball game. Something that you can’t adequately prepare for.
Like I went to GA, instead of HCMT coming to CO.
Other teams across the country prepare for it and don’t lose games they shouldn’t. And again, I can understand the defensive woes in that game but the offense had no business playing like **** that day.
BerkeleyBuff
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It's not ridiculous. I'm a Cal grad, plenty of appreciation for what Tedford does. On paper I expect Fresno is the more talented team, but they also 1) aren't conditioned to altitude like Air Force is, 2) don't run nearly as rare/ unique of an offense as Air Force does, and 3) don't have the same emotional investment in the game as AF did, which isn't a big factor but plays a role in college football (same as comparing CSU to any random MWC school). So all that makes it more or less a wash. Relax.
I honestly think RG saw McIntyre’s shortcomings before that game. I know I did. And so did others.
EVery G5 program is going to have a lot of emotional investment in playing P5 teams. Air Force didn’t have any extra motivation to play CU, it was barely even on the radar around here, they wanted to go beat a pac 12 football team.
Yes Air Force runs a rare offense, but that is only half of the game and Fresno is much more talented on both sides.
BerkeleyBuff
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I said I agreed on Fresno being more talented, just disagreed on them necessarily being the much tougher opponent on the whole. Agree to disagree. It's not anything that matters anyways.
You underestimate the emotional part of the game at the college level at your peril.
Sure, on paper, the AFA game was a challenging, but fairly winnable game.
The reality was that the zoomies wanted that game, and they wanted it bad. Lots of us were a little ashamed at how the cadets were treated the last time they came to Boulder.
They were pissed.
Still.
We looked at those newspaper articles in embarrassment. Calhoun used them as motivation. "We've been waiting 40 years to extract our revenge" may not have come out of his mouth, but you better bet that was their team's attitude heading into the game.
Yes, on paper, Fresno might be a tougher game next year than AFA was this year, but the reality is that next year's game will be an easier game for the buffs to win.
CSU might be slightly tougher at home. That slight advantage will be functionally meaningless to the win/loss column though. Instead of the line being 17, it'll be 14.
Fresno will end up being an easier game than AFA.
aTm will absolutely be tougher than the corn.
We should be 2-1, and we'll have a shot at 3-0.
Regardless, we're 3-1 now, which is right where we needed to be to make a bowl game this year.
Sure, on paper, the AFA game was a challenging, but fairly winnable game.
The reality was that the zoomies wanted that game, and they wanted it bad. Lots of us were a little ashamed at how the cadets were treated the last time they came to Boulder.
They were pissed.
Still.
We looked at those newspaper articles in embarrassment. Calhoun used them as motivation. "We've been waiting 40 years to extract our revenge" may not have come out of his mouth, but you better bet that was their team's attitude heading into the game.
Yes, on paper, Fresno might be a tougher game next year than AFA was this year, but the reality is that next year's game will be an easier game for the buffs to win.
CSU might be slightly tougher at home. That slight advantage will be functionally meaningless to the win/loss column though. Instead of the line being 17, it'll be 14.
Fresno will end up being an easier game than AFA.
aTm will absolutely be tougher than the corn.
We should be 2-1, and we'll have a shot at 3-0.
Regardless, we're 3-1 now, which is right where we needed to be to make a bowl game this year.
BerkeleyBuff
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Nothing would make me happier than beating Aggy.
Lots of games for the Pac-12 to make a statement next year.
CU @ A&M
Michigan @ Washington
Ohio State @ Oregon
Oregon State @ Oklahoma State
TCU @ Cal
Stanford @ Notre Dame
Notre Dane @ USC
BYU @ Stanford
BYU @ Utah
Arizona & TTU
BYU @ ASU
USC VS. Bama
Quite a few good G5 matchups to
Utah State @ Washington
WSU & Utah State
Houston @ WSU
Fresno @ CU
UCLA @ SDSU
Toughness. No excuses.
How do you all keep up on who will be good next year? I’d have to analyze the roster for all three of our OOC opponents. I mean 20% of the roster turns over each year.
I do know that A&M will return almost 100% of their starters next year. It’s a game in College Station. On paper, It will be the toughest OOC game we’ve played in a while.
CSU will be a mess. We don’t even know who their coach will be, assuming they cut Bobo on January 1 or negotiate a buyout.
Fresno will also have questions at QB, at WR, TE, and lose a bunch on the D line. I have no idea if the holes will be plugged with good talent or not. I don’t follow their recruiting. G5 teams rise and fall really rapidly depending if they hit on some key underrecruited players.
I do know that A&M will return almost 100% of their starters next year. It’s a game in College Station. On paper, It will be the toughest OOC game we’ve played in a while.
CSU will be a mess. We don’t even know who their coach will be, assuming they cut Bobo on January 1 or negotiate a buyout.
Fresno will also have questions at QB, at WR, TE, and lose a bunch on the D line. I have no idea if the holes will be plugged with good talent or not. I don’t follow their recruiting. G5 teams rise and fall really rapidly depending if they hit on some key underrecruited players.
BerkeleyBuff
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Definitely a good lineup. I can't remember the last time I've been so pissed about a game none of my alma maters were playing in than the UO-Auburn game. Woulda been nice to squeak that one out. Next year, those top three you list are all big ones (even though Michigan isn't actually that good, the national media can't stop believing they are).
I get that it is a different era, but one of the things that we could always count on back in the big 12 days was that CU was going to beat A&M no matter how good they were. We just seemed to have their number.
It gives me hope.
I think Tucker is an upgrade but until he puts some hardware in a glass case he isn't.
Don’t talk about your boss that way
DrunkPanda
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Mike and mel sounds like the name of an am sports radio talk show... maybe they can team up after their coaching careees are over, that would be petty funny to listen to. Mike getting all emotional and teary while debating topics with mel. Then Mel being all "YOU NEED TO EMOTIONALLY TOUGHEN UP, MIKE. IF YOU'RE GOING TO THROW A TANTRUM EVERY SHOW, YOU CAN TAKE YOUR ASS TO THE (radio show transfer) PORTAL RIGHT NOW
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Interview with Tony Brown. Starting around the 3 minute mark, though, they talk about the suits the players were wearing on the road trip. Apparently, Tucker came in and asked RG/LC about getting all of the players suits of their choice to wear for road games like he experienced in the SEC.