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Rick George's final accomplishment: 27 million $ deficit

Darth Snow

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Or 41 million after taking into consideration student and School payments to the AD

The University of Colorado’s athletic department is projecting that it will run a $27 million deficit during the current fiscal year ending in June 2026, in addition to needing $11.9 million in institutional support from the university and $2.2 million from student fees,


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If we'd kept Sanders pay less insane the deficit would be all about the player payments but RG went for the top 10 contract. I'm sure he expected the money train to keep rolling too but instead we went 3 and 9.

The best news is that it's gonna be way worse next year as ticket renewals crater. Great timing too because it's really going to help our pool of AG candidates going forward
 
Or 41 million after taking into consideration student and School payments to the AD




https://share.google/XLelWBDOslcZXsjG5

If we'd kept Sanders pay less insane the deficit would be all about the player payments but RG went for the top 10 contract. I'm sure he expected the money train to keep rolling too but instead we went 3 and 9.

The best news is that it's gonna be way worse next year as ticket renewals crater. Great timing too because it's really going to help our pool of AG candidates going forward
This issue always comes up when we change conferences. :ROFLMAO:

Enjoy your increased ticket prices next fall.
 
Trying to figure out how they are doing these projections? They aren't even halfway through their fiscal year anyways. Also doesn't include the bump in the new TV contract and probably not recognizing a lot of the contributions yet. Seems to be off
 
Or 41 million after taking into consideration student and School payments to the AD




https://share.google/XLelWBDOslcZXsjG5

If we'd kept Sanders pay less insane the deficit would be all about the player payments but RG went for the top 10 contract. I'm sure he expected the money train to keep rolling too but instead we went 3 and 9.

The best news is that it's gonna be way worse next year as ticket renewals crater. Great timing too because it's really going to help our pool of AG candidates going forward
I was early on the Anti-Rick train becuase of the C-Unit stuff, but this piece is a bit unfair.

Starting this year, there is $25.5+/- million in additional costs caused by $5+mm pay raise to coach Prime, and $20.5 million added in player payments as directed by the NCAA Settlement.

Including the student fees is BS Those fees were guaranteed years ago, when the AD was broke a different time. They came in, in a swap for those prime seats on the south side of the 50 - if anything, that's a bad deal for the AD now and acts as a tax.
 
Trying to figure out how they are doing these projections? They aren't even halfway through their fiscal year anyways. Also doesn't include the bump in the new TV contract and probably not recognizing a lot of the contributions yet. Seems to be off

I was early on the Anti-Rick train becuase of the C-Unit stuff, but this piece is a bit unfair.

Starting this year, there is $25.5+/- million in additional costs caused by $5+mm pay raise to coach Prime, and $20.5 million added in player payments as directed by the NCAA Settlement.

Including the student fees is BS Those fees were guaranteed years ago, when the AD was broke a different time. They came in, in a swap for those prime seats on the south side of the 50 - if anything, that's a bad deal for the AD now and acts as a tax.
A two month old USA Today article singling out Colorado (Prime) being a bit disingenuous? Shocked I tell you. Shocked.

Also, have we not already arrived at the conclusion that the athletic department should absolutely be getting help from the broader University that runs at around $2.8B in annual revenue, has a $2.2B endowment, and gets less than 5% of it's funding from public money?

What are we even talking about here?
 
A two month old USA Today article singling out Colorado (Prime) being a bit disingenuous? Shocked I tell you. Shocked.

Also, have we not already arrived at the conclusion that the athletic department should absolutely be getting help from the broader University that runs at around $2.8B in annual revenue, has a $2.2B endowment, and gets less than 5% of it's funding from public money?

What are we even talking about here?

Are you daring to suggest CU isn't broke??????
 
CU isn't broke. But the AD is, so unless CU steps up in a big way, it's about to get real weird around Dal Ward.
You know what runs an instant massive deficit at CU with no chance at any ROI? Every single liberal arts department, every single parking structure, or building renovation, or basically 90% of University. UCCS is a money pit that they keep pumping hundreds of millions in to.

Billions are floating around CU Boulder, CU Anschutz and CU Denver every year, and they piss away hundreds of millions on wild **** with absolutely no ROI.
 
Why not separate Football and Basketball from Olympics and just have the University underwrite or endow the Olympics sports? Just let Football and Basketball have the money they create. Cleaner situation than overall more transparent
 
Why not separate Football and Basketball from Olympics and just have the University underwrite or endow the Olympics sports? Just let Football and Basketball have the money they create. Cleaner situation than overall more transparent
Six in one, half dozen in the other.

No offense to you personally but it’s this kind of mentality that has permeated this institution for decades. The CU AD is part of the broader CU institution just as much as UCCS or CU Denver are. Why some people want to split it up and act like the AD is some separate entity forced upon the University is so bizarre. Incompetent people think like that.

We are talking about a little more than a rounding error in their annual budget to make sure the AD is flush with resources.
 
Seems like a bargain given the amount of positive press we've gotten. How much of the deficit is due to football v. non-football? I think CU charges the athlectic department out-of-state tuition instead of in-state. If correct, about 40% of the deficit comes from that alone, which is an accounting mechanism.
 
Seems like a bargain given the amount of positive press we've gotten. How much of the deficit is due to football v. non-football? I think CU charges the athlectic department out-of-state tuition instead of in-state. If correct, about 40% of the deficit comes from that alone, which is an accounting mechanism.
CU football ran about a $31m surplus last FY by itself and that doesn’t include the increased Big 12 media revenue that will never get attributed to football on the balance sheet but is entirely due to football. Football has the money to pay for whatever it needs, including Primes increased contract, rev sharing, etc.
 
Or 41 million after taking into consideration student and School payments to the AD




https://share.google/XLelWBDOslcZXsjG5

If we'd kept Sanders pay less insane the deficit would be all about the player payments but RG went for the top 10 contract. I'm sure he expected the money train to keep rolling too but instead we went 3 and 9.

The best news is that it's gonna be way worse next year as ticket renewals crater. Great timing too because it's really going to help our pool of AG candidates going forward

Always bi*ching: Prime, RG or whoever is in charge.

Could Darth Snow = Murray Sperber??? We were so much better off with the Bohner in charge.

Murray was successful, he bitched so much that he and Miles Bland eventually took down Bob Knight (who later put on a more "comfortable Red sweater"). For all of Murray's glorious actions he took a leave of absence (the students wanted him rung up), retired, left the state, and thankfully emigrated back home to native Canada. Murray's life's purpose was to reform college sports; however he obviously lost. To his benefit apparently, he was a great Linda Wertheimer interview!!

IU President Miles Bland parlayed his IA success into rendering the NCAA into the nutless oversight body that is now being replaced. Miles started the NCAA on the path to be useless...

Good thing Indiana is surging in football. Since the General's departure in 2000: 0 national titles, no B12 title wins; they make the NCAA tourney about 1/2 the time and are onto like their 5th coach. Thankfully, Purdue stepped up replacing them as the state's hoops power, so they have that!

By next year Darth gets his dream: ticket renewals crater; the band is hit by budget cuts; we re-adopt powder blue uniforms; CU joins the Mtn West/Wac-12 which signs a spectacular speculative huge TV contract with TBN based on subscribers and Bronco Mendenhall is the new HC with a total staff of 7. However, Darth loves attending again since with only 15K in attendance there is no traffic, no late games, the games are an hour shorter without TV, he sneaks in his hot cocoa and weiners cost half as much.

On the other hand, CU does not like it as Jim Mora and CSU win and little brother becomes the more appealing than our flagship University! LOL
 
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Six in one, half dozen in the other.

No offense to you personally but it’s this kind of mentality that has permeated this institution for decades. The CU AD is part of the broader CU institution just as much as UCCS or CU Denver are. Why some people want to split it up and act like the AD is some separate entity forced upon the University is so bizarre. Incompetent people think like that.

We are talking about a little more than a rounding error in their annual budget to make sure the AD is flush with resources.
I am firmly in the camp of Enterprising the AD, specifically Football and probably Basketball. The School is the majority stakeholder of the Brand and Facilities and it is run as a Benefit Corporation. My point is that the Olympic Sports are more broadly non-polarizing and should just be supported by general budget. They are low revenue and high value.
 
I am firmly in the camp of Enterprising the AD, specifically Football and probably Basketball. The School is the majority stakeholder of the Brand and Facilities and it is run as a Benefit Corporation. My point is that the Olympic Sports are more broadly non-polarizing and should just be supported by general budget. They are low revenue and high value.

Good point. I don't know if you have been following CAL at all, but they recently shook everything up. Cal's longtime AD was either fired, retired, or resigned. They promoted two young associate ADs as Co-Ads for all sports except football, specifically just focusing on their non-revenue and Olympic sports, I think with your general budget idea in mind. Cal hired Ron Rivera at like $800K/yr to run football only. Rivera reports directly to the chancellor with no input from the Co-Ad's. They completely walled off the separate operations.

Cal's AD budget is deep in the red going back like 15 years. UCLA has to pay Cal funds to offset their move to the B1G. Even with the recent news, CU's financial situation looks great compared to Cal, UCLA or a bunch of other teams, including ones in the B1G.

I looked at the Knight Commission report on college AD finances and they run deficits like the government. Expenses and debt service is out of control spending like drunken sailors... Nubs breaks even, but 36% of their budget is to facilities/debt service--$77M, no wonder they stopped the stadium renovation plan. Ohio State ran a $40M deficit, 26% debt/facilities--$76M. Rutgers $45.5M deficit; UCLA $52M deficit. I highlight the debt load because that is usually not someplace where cuts can be made and they just pay interest. I can see why the B1G wants the private equity, as except for a few schools the SEC revenues really blow them out of the water.


Overall, I was surprised how well CU competes. We are at/near the top of B12, but also generate revenues in the neighborhood of MN, MD, Rutgers, Purdue, Ole Miss, GA Tech, UVA, Louisville and some others, however we generally offer less sports. Our debt is $33.2M, which pales in comparison to some of our peers. UoA screwed their books.

As an aside, the financial numbers sort of changed my perspective on Lane leaving Ole Miss for LSU. I hoped Lane would have been loyal and stayed, but they are really a small fish in the huge SEC pond, like bottom 1/4 by a large %. There revenue came in at $149M (CU is at $146M) and they play against 9 teams over $200M. Texas rakes in $331M; A&M $266M. They are make less than South Carolina and Missou by decent margins. Who knows why Lane did it, but if he stayed at Ole Miss with them paying his exorbitant market rate + keeping his assistants at market rate, the Ole Miss AD would have been stretched for sure.
 
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I guess Crawford's clickbait label was on the mark. FACTS! :ROFLMAO:

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I agree with your take, CU has to get it done and the field and I don't doubt the numbers. However, CU's revenue is up substantially and we are playing it the right B12 pond. $27M is bad, but not as bad as some other prominent programs.
 
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