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What is your confidence level that Hawkins is done at CU?
- Thread starter Duff Man
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Why should it be a matter of time? His time should be up! Act now!
Lt.Col.FrankSlade
Well-Known Member
Lots of rumors circulating now that he's already been told.
where are you hearing this ?
I read something on another board that was similar.
BlackNGold
Club Member
I voted Tossup. My heart wants it to be that he is done but I have no idea what MB and Dr. Phil are thinking. Benson is a non-factor in this.
That's what AZ said, but I've heard it is completely false. It doesn't make any sense at all. Why would you tell a guy he's fired, but not until later. "Hey, Dan, we are going to fire you later this season, but keep coaching and everything until then. Thanks."
You don't say that. What you say is "Dan, you are on your last legs here. Unless you really turn this thing around, you will be gone". That gives Hawk some motivation to get his sh it together, but it also allows the AD to start looking and making a few calls, because the whole world knows that Hawkins can't coach his way out of a wet paper bag.
AZ's report says that Bohn, Benson, and Phil have already notified Hawk that he is 100% gone after this season. Maybe he misunderstood what his source said. I don't buy it.
prior to the season, I thought that 6 wins would save his job. But as one of the many fans that were out in CA over the weekend and went to the Friday night alumni deal and the Saturday pregame deal and seeing so much enthusiasm and excitement of CU and our coming to the Pac12, only to have Hawk piss it all away with one of the worst performances I've ever seen from this team, I'd say he helped to dig his own grave on Saturday. No way does he recover from this. Well, unless we win 8 regular season games this year (maybe have to win 9 counting a bowl), but no way does that happen.
He'll only be back if he makes a BCS bowl... that ship has sailed... He's GONZO!
Just to split hairs.. Az's report doesn't say they said he was gone. Az's report said the bgiwigs sat down with him this week and further, the report said it would take a miracle to keep him. Nowhere did it say that anyone has said he was 100% gone.
Basically he's been told he needs to walk on water to keep his job, which is what any smart boss would do in a situation like this. As mentioned earlier, let's the guy know he has to perform and let's the admin go out and start their search.
Read the first paragraph carefully....
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ummm, does Ricardo Patton mean anything to you?
Rraalph 3000
Well-Known Member
At this point I have no confidence in anyone within the program around actual football related decisions....if anyone was 100% certain DH was gone, then why the heck wouldn't he be gone already? There's really no logical excuses/explanations anymore....Until I see it I won't believe it with our leaders
And so is this, which I'm only posting because you're taking information off of a paysite and mis-representing it. You can't pick and chose which parts of a quote to copy. Read the whole thing.
Is not
And I'm not saying whose scoop is right or wrong or carries any validity, but if you're going to use it to prove a point, you either need to get it right or leave it alone.
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I'm in pretty much the same boat. Prior to the season I thought I might be ok with keeping him around if he won 6 games, a bowl, and had some decent wins in there. But now, no way. That was a complete debacle and totally ridiculous. The fans showed up sooo huge and he just took a piss on the fire and then crapped in the fire pit once it was out.
You see, before Saturday I was definitely going to do whatever I could to get to Columbus next year to try and see the Buffs out there. There was even a slight possibility I'd try to get out to Boulder to watch the UGA game. But now I realize that every time I've put forth any effort in the last 4 years to try and see the buffs they've just given me nothing back. I try to get to games when I can and I rearrange my weekend/Thursday or Friday schedule to go across town to watch the buffs on the tube. And I never get anything from the games. Seriously. It's like it's a freaking waste of time and effort. That is an awful feeling for a fan to have. And I am a pretty die hard fan. If I'm feeling this way, I can't imagine what the casual fan is fealing.
The buffs need to get rid of Hawkins ASAP in order to salvage what fan support they might actually have left. The fans have been pretty good through this horrible stretch but I expect we're getting pretty close to a line that we do not want to cross.
How am I mis-representing his report? Because I pulled a direct quote, but excluded a different one? Maybe he shouldn't be contradictory in his report. 100%, unless something else. Oh, well ok.
I don't know if he is right or if other people are right. That first paragraph of his just doesn't make sense to me. That's all.
He's gone. 100%.
somebody
Well-Known Member
^^ This. He is incompetent, and time will only further prove it.
I think it would be 1,5 mil + rest of this season if they fire him sooner.
That amt is not a problem. Ohio state pays for it alone, and large #s have been thrown about as available from boosters as soon as the hammer drops. Financial issues will have little effect on this issue.
I think that politics is what saved him last year and with an election coming up it is what is still saving him. Benson does not want to be busy explaining why the university is paying somebody in the area of $3 million not to coach after paying his predicessor the same not to coach. The people he would have to deal with in explaining this are going to do their best to make it look like the money is coming right out of the instructional budget of the university ignoring the fact that it will be from athletic funds and donated by supporters who want to make it happen.
I think they were hoping to make it past the election before they had to do the inevitable and fire Hawk but if we manage to lay an egg against Hawaii which is certainly possible or get embarrassed against Georgio which is highly likely then thier hand may be forced. Either way Hawkins is a dead man walking and everybody involved should be able to see the writing on the wall although I am not sure Dan would believe it. He may still think that he can turn things around and get that extension he wants and believes he deserves.
The one thing I can be pretty sure of is that our next coach will have some performance requirements tied to a big chunk of his buy-out clause.
I think they were hoping to make it past the election before they had to do the inevitable and fire Hawk but if we manage to lay an egg against Hawaii which is certainly possible or get embarrassed against Georgio which is highly likely then thier hand may be forced. Either way Hawkins is a dead man walking and everybody involved should be able to see the writing on the wall although I am not sure Dan would believe it. He may still think that he can turn things around and get that extension he wants and believes he deserves.
The one thing I can be pretty sure of is that our next coach will have some performance requirements tied to a big chunk of his buy-out clause.
