Ha. Almost sounds like some guys here.
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CU at **** Game Day Thread
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Ha. Almost sounds like some guys here.
CVilleBuff
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We've still got a good shot at a 7, especially if we win 2 games. Shame of the matter is a win tonight could have had us legitimately discussing a 6 seed.
Given how things have played out, I'm pretty sure we'd still get in. The true bubble squads have resumes that are much worse than ours. And a loss to Wazzu wouldn't bring us to their level. The one issue is we're CU and getting screwed despite all evidence or logic pointing to something is what we do best.
Business travel and only saw the game summary of a big 2nd half run to put the Buffs up 45-31... followed by a big Ute run leading to a 55-57 loss. Reading it, I almost puked. I feel bad for you guys who suffered through watching the last part of that game. Damn.
Seriously? Utah was able to play physical all night. In the second half they were in the double bonus before we even got to the bonus. Tad was a hare's breath from getting T'd up two different times. All that said, we choked down the stretch yet again. You can't let teams go on 19-0 runs. Ever.
You know what? It IS OK to find fault with officiating, believe it or not.
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I am good with the result. Buffs will be focused and hungry, another reminder to never let up. Nobody hurt!
Not sure we can get by AZ, as they will be out for revenge and have mountains of talent, but CU will beat Uah if they meet for the third time, on a neutral court.
Missed some of the Utah come back due to some political diversion
, but Buffs not harmed at all by tonight. I'm ready for the PAC. Z having a slump, need him to regain progress mode. I think Both Josh's will shine.
Not sure we can get by AZ, as they will be out for revenge and have mountains of talent, but CU will beat Uah if they meet for the third time, on a neutral court.
Missed some of the Utah come back due to some political diversion
, but Buffs not harmed at all by tonight. I'm ready for the PAC. Z having a slump, need him to regain progress mode. I think Both Josh's will shine.aghcsm
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Approximate post game quote from Tad: "Against USC I wanted to let them play through it. Tonight we called time outs to try and stop Utah's run...and didn't have any left at the end when we could have used one."
meh ... sounds a bit like equivocation on his part to me. Like he's trying to justify how he's managed games in the past (goddamn it ... let 'em play past it, come Hell or highwater!). **** that. Manage the goddamn game as it happens, and don't stick to some preordained strategy born out of a philosophy you learned under your former head coach (and yes, I know that John Wooden also adhered to that philosophy ... but then, he knew he had the talent on his squad that could easily rebound from a temporary deficit).
After about 50 years of observing college basketball, in person and on TV, I firmly believe that being a successful game day coach is both a science (you have to know your basic **** about game strategy, be familiar with your opponent or at least educate yourself about them) and an art. The ebb and flow of a CBB game needs to be felt ... sensed ... and can't be constrained within the narrow confines of strategies that don't conform to the necessities of the moment. I'm pretty sure that's how the most successful contemporary CBB coaches (Coach K at Duke, Bill Self at KU, Pitino, Caliapri, etc.) manage games. I'd like to someday include Tad in that category, but for now I just can't.
seattlebuff
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I'm 43. Watched and played countless hours of hoops over the years. I've never seen a team that was more capable and incapable in the same year. I wish I had a theory as to why this happens. It's just flat astonishing to watch. Was there a single Buff fan out there (who has followed the program over the past 4 years) that didn't think we'd blow that lead? I didn't think we would ... I knew we would, beyond a shadow of a doubt. It's in the DNA of the program now. It's a ****ing stain now. Beyond anything I've seen in a long time ...
There's still an opportunity to make this a "good" season, but I feel like all I'll remember is what might have been ... had we been a team with the stones to finish.
There's still an opportunity to make this a "good" season, but I feel like all I'll remember is what might have been ... had we been a team with the stones to finish.
PG play, or lack thereof.
You think? It seems as though the ball was getting in the paint with opportunities, but the ball wasn't dropping in the basket.
I'm being honest here, because I'm not smart on basketball, but to my untrained eye, it looked like ball distribution was good. Shots weren't dropping. Somebody help me understand why it was a PG issue.
Tad Boyle miscues continue as if he simply does not understand what is going on. Late collapses against SMU, USC, OSU and Utah twice! It is obvious when his teams get up by 14-18 points, he slows down the game and the offense becomes conservative/stagnant. He begins coaching not to lose, demanding the team play a slow, methodical half court set and eat the clock, even with 10 minutes to go. It is okay to win by 30 and not take the pedal off the gas vs. continuing to lose games that were in the bag. Disappointing, conservative approach time after time, it is difficult to watch. Even more so for the players, who continue to take the blame for his failures in coaching
CVilleBuff
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It wasn't a bad dream.
This one really, really pisses me off. That it would happen at USC and then happen again is unbelievable. Can't complain now if we end up with some horrendous first round match up. That was a golden opportunity to put ourselves in position for a more favorable opponent. I'd sure have liked to face Tulsa instead of Syracuse or Pittsburgh.
This one really, really pisses me off. That it would happen at USC and then happen again is unbelievable. Can't complain now if we end up with some horrendous first round match up. That was a golden opportunity to put ourselves in position for a more favorable opponent. I'd sure have liked to face Tulsa instead of Syracuse or Pittsburgh.
PG play needs to and is getting better but the play in the paint caused them this game. They got our muscled and physicalled inside. There were at least 15-20 pts left on the floor that should have gone in. Poeltl is good but we made him look like he was all world. Josh, Miller and Wes to an extent were outplayed inside. Got some blocks but these guys cannot get to the hoop and finish within about 3 ft of the basket when contested. We looked soft and like we prefer being a finesse team.
seattlebuff
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I'm worried about another post-collapse letdown vs WSU. If we come out like we did against UCLA after blowing it vs USC, we'll lose and could be back on the goddamn bubble. And it's not like we rolled the Cougs this year. They rallied in the first game and we were damn lucky to win the second one.
Prediction:
We slip by the Cougs, win a 2nd game and have a 50-50 shot of making finals, but drop the 3rd game due to late game scoring drought.
We slip by the Cougs, win a 2nd game and have a 50-50 shot of making finals, but drop the 3rd game due to late game scoring drought.
CVilleBuff
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I think we beat Wazzu pretty handily. Then we have a solid half against Arizona before fading away in the second half.
Losing the game this way again is terrible and it's up to Tad to fix it. CU should probably have 24 wins and be ranked in the top 25. These meltdowns shows a lack of heart and toughness. Buffs are also missing a calming presence on the floor. Damn I hate gifting Utah two wins on their record. And the officiating was overly lopsided, got to the point where my kids were counting the bad calls.
How many games is that now this season where we have to sweat it out or lose after a relatively comfortable double-digit lead in the 2nd half? It seems like they´ve had issues finishing games all season and it´s now come back to bite them in the ass several times in recent weeks.
I'm not going to rewatch to see if I'm correct, so correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't we make a good chunk of our run when Yaz was in and then Utah went on theirs when Dom was in? It seems to me, and, again, correct me if I'm wrong, that Yaz plays with a lot more aggression and, dare I say, confidence than Dom. Although I think Yaz showed a huge lack of urgency bringing the ball up the last 1:30. But maybe that was him trying to stay calm and in control.
CVilleBuff
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5 or 6 I believe
Because in those situations our guard play is frantic and mediocre at best. Utah missed plenty of shots themselves, but notice how their guards weren't turning the ball over in the final minutes and didn't completely crumble like ours did. Its bad when you have to play your inexperienced true frosh PG over your starter because he's doing more harm than good.
SMU, Utah twice, and USC. I'd throw in the OSU roadie as well.
seattlebuff
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And those are just the ones we lost ... recall that in both WSU games, we blew sizable second-half leads and were straight lucky to win at home. Had a 13 point lead vs WA with 5 min left and nearly lost on a last second jumper that Andrews usually makes in his sleep. Against Stanford and AZ, we barely escaped after being up late in the second half.
It's a stain on the program right now. This has been going on for 3+ years. IMO it's 90% Tad's problem. Something's gotta change.
Plus some where they held on, but lost double-digit leads and had to sweat it at the end, too. UW.
aghcsm
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Not going to take the time to look up, but it seems to me there were some OOC games where we had big double digit leads and wound up with relatively close single-digit wins (Omaha? Auburn? ??). At the time it was attributed to getting careless against far inferior opponents.
