I don’t even know what to say if we somehow fell ass backward into a pool full of SEC money after the last 15 years and struggles in the P12
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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sounds like you just defined AllBuff's motto
Possible, the other option is they figure their brands, teams and matchups will be too attractive for people to ignore and they figure they can get the market, or a sufficient foothold in it, with T-shirt fans.
I think t-shirt fans will be massively important going forward.
I honestly hadn't even thought about it, but there just isn't much of an SEC presence in Colorado. Wonder if ESPN is like, yeah, we need you guys to take on a lesser product so we can establish a stranglehold on one of the fastest growing markets in the country.
There was a time, and Gordon Gee recognized this, where TV exposure branded future incoming students. When I went to CU the student section was often mostly full compared to today. We were National champs then and sniffing for another one.
In todays world none of the kids watch college football. I dont know of a single one.
I asked my daughter if college sports had planted the seed on her selection of UDub or anywhere she applied. None. What about any of her friends? Also none. She played two sports all thru HS as did most of her friends. They instead based their interest and decision on the city, the quality of the school, and wether it was ’Reach’, ‘Target’, or ‘Safety’ based on the portal they used for their applications. TLDR; there are methods other than college football for Universities to reach future students that are far more effective.
Strange times. We've gone from hoping for a Mountain West invite to being the object of a bidding war between the SEC, B1G, B10, and Zombie PAC.
Of course, none of those things is true, but the changes in the weather on this thread are breathtaking to watch.
Of course, none of those things is true, but the changes in the weather on this thread are breathtaking to watch.
and finally
https://twitter.com/MHver3/status/1544356744138309632
Don't know who this guy is but he seems to have some clout and contacts. He had a tweet back in April predicting USC/UCLA leaving
It’s entertaining to see the mental gymnastics people are going through on this. It helps to not particularly care how it shakes out. Makes it more enjoyable to watch without the emotional investment required to actually, you know, care.
Yeah! It’s a great diversion for a few weeks.
I think you can argue either way.
Other aspects to consider: The changing media landscape and how we are moving from traditional linear TV to streaming with the implications that come with this (direct subscription v ad revenue) plus I think the younger generation is more focused on individuals rather than teams, NBA is a prime example, and I think this ties in with my point about t-shirt fans who might be more attracted to brands and individuals than the generation that makes up the majority of CFB fans right now, which will be either graduates or locals. Especially outside the South I can definitely see CFB losing its local or regional factor and people adopting teams from the P2 if they want to follow big time college ball -> t-shirt fans.
we wont drop football. But we also wont lower our standards very much to be competitive.
The people who care the most about football left campus a long time ago. Students hardly attend at all. The game is becoming a generation limited one.
College football attendance declines for seventh straight season to lowest average since 1981
Even the best teams and conferences across college football saw attendance drops this season
www.cbssports.com
I think they’re underplaying the mileage issue - sure it may not be much more travel for ASU, but it is for existing SEC membership. The longest SEC road trip currently is Columbia, SC to College Station which is under 1,000 miles, that trip would be 1,700 to Boulder and 2,000 to Phoenix. Do existing SEC schools (fans) want to do that?Some speculation here that the SEC is rumored to want to take 4 teams from the Pac 12 to establish a presence in all four time zones, with Oregon and Washington as the two main programs, and Denver and Phoenix as the two MTZ markets they covet..
Is The SEC Moving West?
There is educated speculation out there that ESPN and the SEC are seriously looking at adding four former Pac-12 schools to increase their imprint in all four time zones.kslsports.com
All Things CW: In Which Direction Could SEC Expansion Go Next?
The latest on the changing landscape of college football, which former Alabama quarterback in the NFL is expected to have the best year, and lots of odds and ends.www.si.com
Luckily this won’t be a problem.
Up above when I said maybe the P12 was going public with their media rights negotiation because the B12 had turned the 4 corner schools down, maybe its just the opposite. Maybe the B12 is making a move and the P12 is trying to save the ship. Who knows? This is crazy.
Wow, The PAC12 is worth nothing, nada, zilch
That is it, the media partners are smart enough to not fight over weaker products, so why not manipulate/collude to shape three super conferences.
We must be in the BIG12 by the end of the week!
Or being part of a mega media deal.
Fox is cutting its pac12 spend to pay for its B1G expansion spend.
That doesnt mean that CBS, who just lost the SEC and needs content, will not bid. It would be nice if NBC would get off the fence. Though I suspect ND just told them what the B1G was offering and NBC probably matched it.
There is still value even with USC and UCLA leaving. But Im not sure we get more money then the previous deal unfortunately.
The P12 was a fragile beast, and I think the PTB in the P12 felt that geography made a raid of its prized properties unlikely. Boy, were they wrong.
The idea of CU with it's current leadership in the sec is hilarious
Dodds is highly respected.
'Deep' discussions is the key. Pac 10 is in deep do do.