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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues

Option 1) The Pac 12 is looking to get a number it can then take to its schools to give them a better idea.
Option 2) They are selling something which will not exist for much longer.
 
I wonder if the SEC values the Denver market more than the B1G because there aren't a lot of SEC alums here. The B1G doesn't need CU to capture the market, in theory, but the SEC might need an SEC program to do so. Same in Phoenix.

Possible, the other option is they figure their brands, teams and matchups will be too attractive for people to ignore and they figure they can get the market, or a sufficient foothold in it, with T-shirt fans.

I think t-shirt fans will be massively important going forward.
 
Possible, the other option is they figure their brands, teams and matchups will be too attractive for people to ignore and they figure they can get the market, or a sufficient foothold in it, with T-shirt fans.

I think t-shirt fans will be massively important going forward.
I honestly hadn't even thought about it, but there just isn't much of an SEC presence in Colorado. Wonder if ESPN is like, yeah, we need you guys to take on a lesser product so we can establish a stranglehold on one of the fastest growing markets in the country.
 
Some of it is how younger generations consume sports. Some of it is regionalism. Some of it is health concerns. We’ve discussed that many times on the board before.

Football is a really complicated sport. It takes some time to adjust to even the basic rules. When I was a kid, there was nothing else to watch on TV, so I spent many Sunday afternoons watching it. My son watches zero football and probably never will. It’s almost too late to learn at 12. The cool kids surf anyway is what he’d say.

My 12 yo doesn’t watch either. I always watched sports with my dad and loved it. But whatever, not a big deal

There was a time, and Gordon Gee recognized this, where TV exposure branded future incoming students. When I went to CU the student section was often mostly full compared to today. We were National champs then and sniffing for another one.

In todays world none of the kids watch college football. I dont know of a single one.

I asked my daughter if college sports had planted the seed on her selection of UDub or anywhere she applied. None. What about any of her friends? Also none. She played two sports all thru HS as did most of her friends. They instead based their interest and decision on the city, the quality of the school, and wether it was ’Reach’, ‘Target’, or ‘Safety’ based on the portal they used for their applications. TLDR; there are methods other than college football for Universities to reach future students that are far more effective.
 
Strange times. We've gone from hoping for a Mountain West invite to being the object of a bidding war between the SEC, B1G, B10, and Zombie PAC.

Of course, none of those things is true, but the changes in the weather on this thread are breathtaking to watch.
 
Strange times. We've gone from hoping for a Mountain West invite to being the object of a bidding war between the SEC, B1G, B10, and Zombie PAC.

Of course, none of those things is true, but the changes in the weather on this thread are breathtaking to watch.
It’s entertaining to see the mental gymnastics people are going through on this. It helps to not particularly care how it shakes out. Makes it more enjoyable to watch without the emotional investment required to actually, you know, care.
 
I honestly hadn't even thought about it, but there just isn't much of an SEC presence in Colorado. Wonder if ESPN is like, yeah, we need you guys to take on a lesser product so we can establish a stranglehold on one of the fastest growing markets in the country.

I think you can argue either way.

Other aspects to consider: The changing media landscape and how we are moving from traditional linear TV to streaming with the implications that come with this (direct subscription v ad revenue) plus I think the younger generation is more focused on individuals rather than teams, NBA is a prime example, and I think this ties in with my point about t-shirt fans who might be more attracted to brands and individuals than the generation that makes up the majority of CFB fans right now, which will be either graduates or locals. Especially outside the South I can definitely see CFB losing its local or regional factor and people adopting teams from the P2 if they want to follow big time college ball -> t-shirt fans.
 
Oh, nothing crazy, just that this notion that CU faculty and admin are in awe of Stanford and Cal and would rather just follow them wherever they go, even if it's dropping football, is completely idiotic and just not true.

CU knows it needs football to maintain an athletic department (unlike Cal and Stanford). The hope is that this is a wake up call for the admin to start giving more of a ****.
we wont drop football. But we also wont lower our standards very much to be competitive.

The people who care the most about football left campus a long time ago. Students hardly attend at all. The game is becoming a generation limited one.

 
Some speculation here that the SEC is rumored to want to take 4 teams from the Pac 12 to establish a presence in all four time zones, with Oregon and Washington as the two main programs, and Denver and Phoenix as the two MTZ markets they covet..









I think they’re underplaying the mileage issue - sure it may not be much more travel for ASU, but it is for existing SEC membership. The longest SEC road trip currently is Columbia, SC to College Station which is under 1,000 miles, that trip would be 1,700 to Boulder and 2,000 to Phoenix. Do existing SEC schools (fans) want to do that?
 
Everything is cyclical. What is now in college football may change quickly. One just doesn’t know. CU may suck right now. And, yeah, we’ve sucked for 20 years. But just like our basketball program, our lot can change quickly.
 
Everything is cyclical. What is now in college football may change quickly. One just doesn’t know. CU may suck right now. And, yeah, we’ve sucked for 20 years. But just like our basketball program, our lot can change quickly.
Cycles get much longer when you’re buried financially. You need a billionaire sugar daddy and/or a mega rich TV deal to compete in contemporary college football. Colorado has neither.
 
Wow, The PAC12 is worth nothing, nada, zilch
That is it, the media partners are smart enough to not fight over weaker products, so why not manipulate/collude to shape three super conferences.
We must be in the BIG12 by the end of the week!
Fox is cutting its pac12 spend to pay for its B1G expansion spend.

That doesnt mean that CBS, who just lost the SEC and needs content, will not bid. It would be nice if NBC would get off the fence. Though I suspect ND just told them what the B1G was offering and NBC probably matched it.

There is still value even with USC and UCLA leaving. But Im not sure we get more money then the previous deal unfortunately.
 
Wow, The PAC12 is worth nothing, nada, zilch
That is it, the media partners are smart enough to not fight over weaker products, so why not manipulate/collude to shape three super conferences.
We must be in the BIG12 by the end of the week!
The P12 was a fragile beast, and I think the PTB in the P12 felt that geography made a raid of its prized properties unlikely. Boy, were they wrong.
 
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