Master negotiator! This is believable because it's a pattern.
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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
- Thread starter InTheBuff
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I think that's almost certainly the way things are going. I'm not convinced that the 4 regional groupings necessarily have a "Western" region, either. It might look like: Northeast, mid-Atlantic/Midwest, Southeast, Southwest.
If I were making things up, I'd end up pretty close to this:
| Midwest | Northeast | Southeast | Southwest |
| Arkansas | Penn State | Miami | A&M |
| OU | Maryland | FSU | UT |
| Oklahoma State | Syracuse | GT | Baylor |
| Wisconsin | NC State | Clemson | Texas Tech |
| Minnesota | Pitt | Tennessee | Arizona State |
| Notre Dame | UVA | Georgia | Colorado |
| Iowa | VT | Florida | Utah |
| Northwestern | Duke | Alabama | UCLA |
| Nebraska | UNC | Auburn | USC |
| Illinois | Ohio State | LSU | Oregon |
| Missouri | Michigan | South Carolina | Washington |
| Kansas | Michigan State | Ole Miss | Arizona |
Vic Victory
Well-Known Member
Also lines up with the P12 media rights 30
day open bar for ESPN and… ESPN to negotiate a deal.
In 30 days we’ll know if this conference still exists. Even 30 days seems too long.
If true I like the aggressive position they are taking.
It may not happen this year, but we will continue to see major shifts and defections from the conferences other than the Big Ten and the SEC over the next few years.
Last thing CU wants to do is put itself in a position where it cannot make that jump if invited. College football is cyclical. It takes horrible luck / management to be down as long as we have. But there is no reason to think that we will permanently suck. Get rid of a useless AD and a boring incompetent coach, make a couple of good hires, have a couple of winning seasons and we are back on the national stage.
It would be moronic to wed ourselves to a contract where the best programs are constantly looking for a way out. And that is every conference other than the Big Ten and the SEC.
Last thing CU wants to do is put itself in a position where it cannot make that jump if invited. College football is cyclical. It takes horrible luck / management to be down as long as we have. But there is no reason to think that we will permanently suck. Get rid of a useless AD and a boring incompetent coach, make a couple of good hires, have a couple of winning seasons and we are back on the national stage.
It would be moronic to wed ourselves to a contract where the best programs are constantly looking for a way out. And that is every conference other than the Big Ten and the SEC.
No idea what any of this means
It should mean that the 4corner schools should bolt and force the decision for UO and Wash, rather than wait and have the decision made for them.
CU holds more cards joining now than if they come to the Big12 on a life raft.
I'm just wondering what Phil Knight is going to do to save the Pac 12.
It means the Big 12 is not attractive to anyone other than you dopes.
Nothing. It’s dead.
4 corner schools should issue an ultimatum now and provide a roadmap for poaching B12 schools to PAC (short term) and helping SEC/B10 cut up the carcass of ACC (long term).
If UO and UW balk, then walk and join B12 without them.
4 corner schools now have all of the chips and can push UW/UO around since B10 isn’t doing anything right now
If UO and UW balk, then walk and join B12 without them.
4 corner schools now have all of the chips and can push UW/UO around since B10 isn’t doing anything right now
so did David Koresh...
I'd love to read some of the Oregon message boards right now.
ShakeandBlake
Member
The answer is clear as day. How anyone can tether themselves to UO / UW while they are blatantly expressing their desires to flee is beyond me. CU, UU and the Arizonas have a great opportunity to take control here.
And I don't think anyone in Berkley notices
Serious question: Why would the SEC want Clemson, FSU or Miami? I get that from a brand perspective, they are nice, but the SEC already owns the TV/streaming market in the entire region, especially Florida, and elevating three potentially elite programs to the SEC level only dilutes the recruiting there.
If they were to kick out Vandy, Miss State and Arkansas and replace them with those three, then I can see the value, but I really don't understand the value in those three programs to the SEC as just pure expansion
If they were to kick out Vandy, Miss State and Arkansas and replace them with those three, then I can see the value, but I really don't understand the value in those three programs to the SEC as just pure expansion
I largely agree. In fantasy baseball and fantasy football, I often pick up players I have no use for. Only to keep them off of other teams.
BerkeleyBuff
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Because having brand vs brand matchups generates ****loads of media revenue that is barely attached to local markets at all.
Kick out those three, and who are the jobbers? South Carolina? Missouri? Every conference needs jobbers.
Better have them with than potentially against you
But they don't have to be in the SEC to play each other, just like what happens now.
But those three programs will never be on the same level as the new SEC, so why is the SEC worried about them?
I guess it would be a long term play for when they eventually do kick out the "jobbers" as @Not Sure calls them
Can't wait to find out out what conference we will be jobbing in.
Too bad, CU has little interest in rejoining the Big 12. I fully expect CU to recommit to staying in the PAC 12, regardless of the long-term risks to the AD.
As I expected, that appears to be the preference of the Chancellor, BOR and faculty reps. RG is just trying to find a way to keep getting paid $1 mm a year for no results, and with no accountability.
Pacific rim
BerkeleyBuff
Well-Known Member
They need to be in the SEC to guarantee more of those big matchups for the networks to spend a billion dollars.