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CU has rejoined the Big 12 and broken college football - talking out asses continues
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Fractional share of what? If 2 schools leave the media negotiations start over for the 8 leftovers. If more leve its really bad.
Fogo
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FIFY.... The Rancho Cucamonga Bowl
Victory
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There were rumors about ACC adding P12 schools pro rata several months back. Let’s see if we see those pop up again. And I’d sign up for the ACC GOR > B12 exit fee any day of the week.
Whatever they can get I guess. I don’t know.
We wouldn’t be leaving if the P12 had a serviceable offer. Not to mention the P12 is wildly unstable and we just guaranteed ourselves a spot with leaders who row the same direction. P12 leaders couldn’t manage a lemonade stand
The California alumni base has done f***-all the last decade. Apathy is the vibe of those transplants. Pull more kids from Texas into the student body that are passionate and donate to sports.
If coach Prime turns out to be a bust and we jumped to the little 12 …. Oy.
13 more years at the same exit fee as the Big12?? Umm no. The ACC is ****ed
I could actually see
UA
ASU
UO
UW
Cal
All joining us in the now Big18. Scheduling is weird, but not impossible with 18 members.
You could do 6 groups of three: For 8 conference games, you play the two others in your group every year, plus one from each of the other 6. For 9, you play two others in your group, plus another fixed one from outside your group, and then one from each other group.
You could also do 3 groups of 6: For 9 conference games, you play the 5 others in your group every year, plus two each from the other two groups. For 8 conference games you do 5 in your group plus either a rotating 1 and 2 from the other groups, or a "5 in your group, plus one fixed opponent outside your group, plus an additional one from each other group."
Stanford goes independent, and Utah gets screwed.
Scheduling works better with 14 or 16 than 18, and I'll leave "accretive" and other considerations aside, but
1. I think Cal or UA are the most likely to get the conference to 14. My money would honestly be on Cal.
2. If it's 16, I think it's Cal, and two of: UA, UO, UW and ASU. I honestly don't know which two of those are out - definitely one of the Arizona schools - after that I dunno, unless UO or UW steps on their own dick and/or the WSU/OSU politicians get involved.
I think Utah is going to get cock blocked by BYU - their only hope is for the Pac to survive in some quasi-recognizable format.
The Pac itself will survive. It may not be recognizable, but I think it will technically survive as a conference. I will remind you that the Big East still exists (although counterpoint: the SWC does not).
More schools are leaving the Pac, and many will be joining. CSU may finally get their dreamed of invite. Of course, when they get to the party, they're going to find out that the cool kids have already moved on to a bigger, better party. They'll be fine, they're used to that sequence of events by now.
UA
ASU
UO
UW
Cal
All joining us in the now Big18. Scheduling is weird, but not impossible with 18 members.
You could do 6 groups of three: For 8 conference games, you play the two others in your group every year, plus one from each of the other 6. For 9, you play two others in your group, plus another fixed one from outside your group, and then one from each other group.
You could also do 3 groups of 6: For 9 conference games, you play the 5 others in your group every year, plus two each from the other two groups. For 8 conference games you do 5 in your group plus either a rotating 1 and 2 from the other groups, or a "5 in your group, plus one fixed opponent outside your group, plus an additional one from each other group."
Stanford goes independent, and Utah gets screwed.
Scheduling works better with 14 or 16 than 18, and I'll leave "accretive" and other considerations aside, but
1. I think Cal or UA are the most likely to get the conference to 14. My money would honestly be on Cal.
2. If it's 16, I think it's Cal, and two of: UA, UO, UW and ASU. I honestly don't know which two of those are out - definitely one of the Arizona schools - after that I dunno, unless UO or UW steps on their own dick and/or the WSU/OSU politicians get involved.
I think Utah is going to get cock blocked by BYU - their only hope is for the Pac to survive in some quasi-recognizable format.
The Pac itself will survive. It may not be recognizable, but I think it will technically survive as a conference. I will remind you that the Big East still exists (although counterpoint: the SWC does not).
More schools are leaving the Pac, and many will be joining. CSU may finally get their dreamed of invite. Of course, when they get to the party, they're going to find out that the cool kids have already moved on to a bigger, better party. They'll be fine, they're used to that sequence of events by now.
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Victory
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There’s no sugarcoating it. P12 was all talk. The Apple deal and all that were smoke and mirrors. They had nothing the whole time.
“We’ll release the details soon
”Victory
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The GOR ends at some point but the B12 exit fee doesn’t. Also, playing against FSU and Miami and recruiting FL against them is light years better than UCF. I’d sign up CU for that.
First paragraph is justifiable. The 2nd is pure unadulterated bull ****.
But you know you do you. You want to land whales for support? Go where the money is. Texas and California. We don’t know who promised what to whom.
Yet only one of them got poached.
Stupid question time...
Maybe I'm dense, but I don't get this meme? Haven't 5 different schools from the Big 12 made the move to the B1G or SEC, basically the opposite of what this is implying? Is there some hidden irony in this post I'm missing?
But when everything changes in 6 years, the ACC will still be ****ed. And their GOR is not just an exit fee. It’s given up all media rights for the entire term of the current ACC GOR. So if FSU wants to jump to SEC, all the SEC TV money they’d get goes back to the ACC until 2036.
The ACC is the worse off of all conferences except the Pac 12 at this point but only because they have a contract and stability.
Victory
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Agree, the Cali fan base showed up. I personally take responsibility for several wins at Maples and hazing the tree huggers (who are super nice people btw).
Prime will bring more money to this program in the next few years than what CU has gained by joining the Pac 12. The wallets open for winning, not to play two games per year in the state of California.
It isn’t what it was before. It is what it is now. But hey count me in if the money is right. If we just helped uo and uw get big invites I am less enthusiastic
This could be true
Victory
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Give me the ACC for the next 13 years vs the B12 for eternity. That’s all I’m sayin.
But the point is, the Big 12 is not for eternity. It’s for the next 6 years and then we’ll see. The ACC doesn’t have that option
You may be better off in the PAC than ACC if you’re actually trying to win. PAC’s exit fee will be a gift card to Urban Air. Win the conference for a few years, make a run and someone may poach you. ACC you’re stuck.
And this is how you thank those tacos? Those beautiful tacos.
99 years
**** they were really good
Yes it will.
Pay the exit fee of around $100m if nothing get negotiated down and that’s made up for in the first 3 years or so of being part of a P2 structure. ACC doesn’t have that option