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'16 CO OLB Carlo Kemp (Signed to Michigan)
- Thread starter KyleM.
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I wasn't real angry about his commitment to Michagan until I read the Carlo Kemp recruiting story in today's Post. What got me angry was the whole "The Paganos are the first family in Colorado football" statement. The second was his mom's statement that "I was worried that if he went to CU he'd be viewed as the savior."
How full of themselves are these people? His having CU on his final list comes across as patronizing. As if "Well, I liked Notre Dame better but kind of had to put CU on the list for good old grandpa" was doing CU a favor. And then there was his "maybe there is something up there I haven't seen" statement. How damned patronizing!
But worst of all was the "first family of Colorado football" crap. Give me a break! I know those were the writer's words but you know they damned well they believe it. Listen, if you are the "First family of Colorado football" you damned well better take pride in EVERYTHING about Colorado football and that includes your flag ship university!!!
How full of themselves are these people? His having CU on his final list comes across as patronizing. As if "Well, I liked Notre Dame better but kind of had to put CU on the list for good old grandpa" was doing CU a favor. And then there was his "maybe there is something up there I haven't seen" statement. How damned patronizing!
But worst of all was the "first family of Colorado football" crap. Give me a break! I know those were the writer's words but you know they damned well they believe it. Listen, if you are the "First family of Colorado football" you damned well better take pride in EVERYTHING about Colorado football and that includes your flag ship university!!!
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Well, you have misread the Pagano family. They are nice, humble, neighborly people. They do not call themselves first family or anything like that. You are angry at people for something they never said.
Be honest with yourself, any Colorado prep player that goes to Colorado is built up by local CU fans. It is natural when you have a small number of players from a small pool to hold them to a higher standard for no other reason than where they grew up.
You've fallen into the aged old trap, a trap even older than you, to find fault in the minutia of anothers words and actions because you feel scorned by something they did. Carlo Kemp is leaving, let him go. Maybe he will be successful at U of M, if so then wish him well. Maybe he will do like so many other CO preps that leave and are never heard from again. Maybe he will transfer to CU in a year or two like others seem to do every few years.
Do yourself a favor and release this inner anger that you are directing at an 18 year old young man and his family. Be honest with youself that it is not this young man and his family that is burning you up but rather something else.
You got some splainin' ta do. What does Fairview have to do with it?
This is good advice, Big Jim.
I would've been fine if he'd taken CU out of it at the beginning and just said "I want to go out of state" rather than, in the article, saying he really wanted to visit Notre Dame but took his last visit to CU "to make my Grandad happy." That was patronizing. Just don't visit at all.
shhh.
Ha! Maybe. I don't know why he bothered having us as a final 3 if he didn't have any intention of considering us. That was his quote. He should've just visited Notre Dame like he wanted to.
So, here is a question: Would you prefer a top in state kid who has no intention of coming here string us along through the process just to "be polite", or be straight with us from the beginning?
Wow. Go back to the beginning of this thread.
Anyone who had any awareness of the Kemp recruitment was saying that he was locked on going out-of-state and that remaining in the conversation as a viable destination would be an uphill battle for CU. Well, it turns out that MacIntyre and staff built a good relationship, had him up to campus a lot, and that it just wasn't going to be enough.
I'm not upset at this one. I am disappointed, but only in context of how great it would have been if Kemp had opted to play at CU. It went down as expected, with CU getting quite a bit more run that I'd thought would happen.
Anyone who had any awareness of the Kemp recruitment was saying that he was locked on going out-of-state and that remaining in the conversation as a viable destination would be an uphill battle for CU. Well, it turns out that MacIntyre and staff built a good relationship, had him up to campus a lot, and that it just wasn't going to be enough.
I'm not upset at this one. I am disappointed, but only in context of how great it would have been if Kemp had opted to play at CU. It went down as expected, with CU getting quite a bit more run that I'd thought would happen.
Hope the kid does well as long as he is not playing CU. These highly ranked recruits have a very tough decision and many have connections/loyalties outside of the state. We do need to give them a reason to stay here and in some cases we have. Like Nik said, I am surprised that we were in this as long as we were. It was such an uphill battle but MM and the staff pushed hard. We need to find a way to win some of these battles going forward.
A damned if you do, damned if you don't situation from the start: you have to recruit him, but think of all the time that was wasted that could have been spent recruiting more realistic potential commits.
Dorn09
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Very few people say they regretted going away for college. Many people say I regret not going away for college. I think he made the right decision for him. I will say that Colorado kids do not have a good recent history of going to the big 10 and succeeding. Kemp might end up at Colorado in a few years.
If the Mom is worried about expectations she does not have to now. I looked at a Michigan message board and 18 people commented on his commitment and video. 46 have commented on a thread called "why I hate twitter".
If the Mom is worried about expectations she does not have to now. I looked at a Michigan message board and 18 people commented on his commitment and video. 46 have commented on a thread called "why I hate twitter".
This.
Those of who know Fairview - and the Paganos in particular - are not surprised in the least. Fairview kids regularly go elsewhere. Boselli, Lockwood, Kemp... I'm sure this is nothing more than a continuation of an established trend.
Dorn09
Well-Known Member
Add Kenny Bell to the list. Sam Martin would have been a Buff if offered and we did get Aurthur Jaffee.
Weird part is Fairview is coached by a McCartney.
The whole "if he went to CU he'd be viewed as the savior" thing bugged me. It sounds kind of narcissistic to me. Fans would be ecstatic if he had chosen CU but I don't think he'd have been viewed as "our savior." Amen.
Yeah, I suppose. It's hard not to get a little upset when a difference maker type player (not a savior) from in state chooses to go elsewhere. It's probably worse being a Colorado fan since we have such a small pool of those types of kids every year. To lose one hurts a lot more than it would if it were a Cal or Texas school. I need to keep my emotions in check, haha. Good luck being just another guy, Carlo.
I am just a bitter old man. And screw Dan Skipper too.