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2011 Coaching Changes and Impacts - Is Year 2 Really the Hardest?

Discussion in 'Colorado Football Message Board' started by SanDiegoBuff, Oct 23, 2012.

  1. SanDiegoBuff

    SanDiegoBuff Club Member Club Member

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    The short answer is that it seems you know what you've got in a coaching staff by year two.

    I was curious to see how the rest of the 2011 coaching changes looked after two years. (one and a half really)

    There were 21 coaching changes in 2011. Of those, there are 4 coaches who have not improved their records over both their predecessor and their first year.
    School
    Out
    In
    Final Year
    Year 1
    Year 2
    Colorado
    Dan Hawkins
    Jon Embree
    0.42
    0.23
    0.14
    Connecticut
    Randy Edsall
    Paul Pasqualoni
    0.62
    0.42
    0.38
    Miami (Fla.)
    Randy Shannon
    Al Golden
    0.54
    0.50
    0.50
    Stanford
    Jim Harbaugh
    David Shaw
    0.92
    0.85
    0.71

    I think we can all agree that, despite his dropping numbers, David Shaw is doing a fine job at Stanford. That leaves Embree as one of 3 coaches that has come in and completely **** the bed.

    Some other random info.

    Of the 21 coaches hired, only 7 came in and posted an improved record over the previous coach in their first year (5 of these 7 saw a drop between the first year and second year). 12 of the coaches improved their record between their first and second years.

    There are still 4-6 games to play in the second years for these coaches so things could vary a bit. But, it seems to me that the second year is where you see the benefit from the coaching staff with almost 60% of the 2011 hires showing improvement by the second year.

    Full Data:

    SchoolOutInFinal YearYear 1Year 2
    Arkansas StateSteve RobertsHugh Freeze0.330.770.57
    Ball StateStan ParrishPete Lembo0.330.500.63
    ColoradoDan HawkinsJon Embree0.420.230.14
    ConnecticutRandy EdsallPaul Pasqualoni0.620.420.38
    FloridaUrban MeyerWill Muschamp0.620.541.00
    IndianaBill LynchKevin Wilson0.420.080.29
    Kent StateDoug MartinDarrell Hazell0.420.420.86
    Louisiana-LafayetteRicky BustleMark Hudspeth0.250.690.67
    MarylandRalph FriedgenRandy Edsall0.690.170.57
    Miami (Fla.)Randy ShannonAl Golden0.540.500.50
    Miami (Ohio)Michael HaywoodDon Treadwell0.710.330.43
    MichiganRich RodriguezBrady Hoke0.540.850.71
    MinnesotaTim BrewsterJerry Kill0.250.250.57
    Northern IllinoisJerry KillDave Doeren0.790.790.88
    North TexasTodd DodgeDan McCarney0.250.420.43
    PittsburghDave WannstedtTodd Graham0.620.46NA
    San Diego StateBrady HokeRocky Long0.690.620.63
    StanfordJim HarbaughDavid Shaw0.920.850.71
    TempleAl GoldenSteve Addazio0.670.690.50
    TulsaTodd GrahamBill Blankenship0.770.620.88
    VanderbiltRobbie CaldwellJames Franklin0.170.460.43
     
  2. Lt.Col.FrankSlade

    Lt.Col.FrankSlade Well-Known Member

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    McCartney disagrees. Therefore, average CU fan (and beat writers named Ringo) disagrees.
     
  3. tante

    tante Club Member Club Member

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    Our big problem is we hired a recruiter to be a head coach. If we had hired an X and O guy we would be a mediocre team not the worst team in the country.
     
  4. SanDiegoBuff

    SanDiegoBuff Club Member Club Member

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    Bump in response to Howell's regurgitation of propaganda.
     
  5. MiamiBuffs

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    Waa happen...

    Pittsburgh Dave Wannstedt Todd Graham 0.62 0.46 NA
     
  6. Finest

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    Freeze isn't at Arky State...Malzahn is. Freeze moved to Ole Miss.
     
  7. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    1st year coaches CU has matched up with this year:

    CSU - Loss
    Fresno - Loss
    Wazzu - Win
    UCLA - Loss
    ASU - Loss
    Zona - Loss

    It's not like we're getting the bump we expected from being Year 2 in the system while facing staffs that are trying to implement.
     

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