Does it matter? You don't have to know them to **** them
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Baylor Rape HQ - (major lawsuit settled)
- Thread starter Buffnik
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Pointless conversation, this dude isn't gonna listen obviously. Rae Curruth Wtf ever man. Dude Idk if you grasp this or not, **** like this happens everywhere and no I don't mean Carruth. I think CU has paid for what went wrong during the scandal, still are really.
8Jah
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Its really hard to turn a school that has been down many years - so much headwind, as we all know. Major problem: By placing any standards on your recruits other than being great at football really limits your pool of great recruits. Major problem: Its hard to lead a bunch of athletes who seem themselves as something special, without instituting that jock-bro culture that makes the whole team think they are really special...even sometimes above the law special.
The history at Baylor was way worse than our lost decade. Briles brought in a culture that seems to have cut many corners - focused like a laser beam on winning football. It seems he found a very sympathetic admin at Baylor. The history of NCAA football is littered with these quick turnaround stories. SMU is possibly the biggest example. For all the shady quick turnarounds exposed, how many were not?
I'm not saying quick turnarounds are impossible to do right...but your competing against either established programs or other 'quick-starts' that are doing shady things. Mac's got to make progress, no doubt, but examples like this really make me appreciate his decency.
Sure you say that now.
Don't get bent because I'm a better fisherman, ill let you kiss my pole.
Dude everyone is on to your "lets ger fishin up in thar hills" tactics.
Yeah ok ha ha, quit your whining Nancy.
Can we get back to the significance of this piece o media? I take it as a clear sign that CU is moving out of the basement, and Bailer is returning to the basement, and then going through the trapdoor to the hell they belong in and came from.
somebody
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Of all the crocks of ****.
8Jah
Well-Known Member
I don't want to fight Nik...I'm mostly on the same page. There has to be some accountability in the win column even though football is a zero sum game.
I'm just pointing out that a lot of the quick turnarounds we see out there (the ones that are not happening to us) are not what they seem. We can't judge ourselves by comparison.
Deleted member 807
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Given the subject matter, I'm surprised Joel is out infront of Rick Rielly on this.
Also this is a platform for Katie Hnida to get some media exposure.
Buckle up, Buff Fans. The tendency here is for folks to sort through CU's ashes.
The question is whether or not tangible lessons learned by CU are relevant in the context of Baylor's scandal, and do those lessons mask the stink and stigma of CU being a bottom feeder with its own sorted past?
@Colorado Track Fan - It's a shame you paint this whole board as hypocritically high and mighty with regards to Baylor's situation. Is my posting in this thread in any way oblivious to the point you keep trying to make? Does the house cleaning that CU went through cover the stain of the scandal, or are CU's ongoing efforts to comply with tile IX all moot since Barnett left because some people like you have agendas to never forget the bad and to never recognize efforts to learn from these mistakes, address problems, and grow?
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Swish
Half a bubble off
He doesn't seem to have much purpose here other than to stir the pot. I think we are fans of all CU sports here, but I somehow get the feeling "tracky" really isn't. There seems to be one program in particular that he has a more antagonistic view of. Wonder why that is?
Any time you knowingly cover up a crime in order to better your chances of performing well in athletics, the NCAA had an obligation to get involved, and penalize where necessary.
I understand that Pedo State gets complicated, because the issue at hand might be avoiding tarnishing of the image of the university more than actually winning football games, but here, it's pretty cut and dried, imo. The objective here was to keep football players on the field so that Bailer's chances of winning football games were improved.
The NCAA has an obligation to get involved.
I understand that Pedo State gets complicated, because the issue at hand might be avoiding tarnishing of the image of the university more than actually winning football games, but here, it's pretty cut and dried, imo. The objective here was to keep football players on the field so that Bailer's chances of winning football games were improved.
The NCAA has an obligation to get involved.
"Outside the Lines obtained a police report which showed that an investigating officer had the case 'pulled from the computer system so that only persons who had a reason to inquire about the report would be able to access it,' and that the case was then kept in a locked office. Another case alleging sexual assault by a high-profile player was kept in 'open-case status' indefinitely, which per Texas law keeps it from public scrutiny."
http://reason.com/blog/2016/05/27/baylor-waco-rape-football-apology
http://reason.com/blog/2016/05/27/baylor-waco-rape-football-apology
Wow. That's really damning for the Waco PD. They had enough trouble already with the biker gang thing.
Deleted member 807
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When interacting with the Waco PD, the Baylor treatment is better than the Twin Peaks.
Hmm. I can buy that.Be very, very, VERY careful what you wish for. I'm like a missile without a target lately.
Perhaps you should have read that article:
While it was and IS disgraceful that CU students and other Boulder-area women were victims of sexual assault, there was a strong component of racial profiling in many of those allegations,
NONE OF WHICH RESULTED IN ANY CHARGES OR CONVICTIONS.
Baylor, as a football program and a university, actively worked to cover up multiple assaults of repeat offenders while they were eligible to play football in a Baylor uniform. Just because the events of the late 90s and early 00s involving the football team at CU took place in no way invalidates anyone's opinion on what Baylor did, the morality thereof, and appropriate punishments for the involved parties.
Maybe now you'll tell me that the 200 people who held a candlelight vigil for sexual assault victims at Baylor "should STFU" because they were students at Baylor during these sexual assaults.
To be fair to CTF, I've never met anybody who participated in a candlelight vigil who wasn't at least a little self-righteous.
The institution clearly had control of this situation.
Is it fair to sum up our uppity self-righteousness and subsequent angst as follows?
In the case of CU, we believe the school administration and community acted too drastically with too little evidence.
In the case of Baylor, we feel that the administration did too little in the face of far more compelling evidence.
This is where I am personally. I've hated baylor with a passion ever since the Buddy Jones email. SCHADENFREUDE mother****ers!
**** baylor.
In the case of CU, we believe the school administration and community acted too drastically with too little evidence.
In the case of Baylor, we feel that the administration did too little in the face of far more compelling evidence.
This is where I am personally. I've hated baylor with a passion ever since the Buddy Jones email. SCHADENFREUDE mother****ers!
**** baylor.
Deleted member 807
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Remember how QB Colt Brennan exposed himself to a female student in a dorm room and was sent packing to break records Hawaii?
This is just one small example of how CU is different than Baylor.
Remember how Barnett (HC), Hoffman (Pres), and Thorpe (AD) were all removed? Thus far, Baylor is 1 for 3.
Remember how the Boulder PD and Rick Reilly and the DA did not cover-up for Barnett? This is how CU is different from Baylor.
Remember how CU didn't keep accused rapists on the team and didn't drag its feet complying with title IX rules? This is how CU is different from Baylor.
This list can go on and on.
This is just one small example of how CU is different than Baylor.
Remember how Barnett (HC), Hoffman (Pres), and Thorpe (AD) were all removed? Thus far, Baylor is 1 for 3.
Remember how the Boulder PD and Rick Reilly and the DA did not cover-up for Barnett? This is how CU is different from Baylor.
Remember how CU didn't keep accused rapists on the team and didn't drag its feet complying with title IX rules? This is how CU is different from Baylor.
This list can go on and on.