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Blind Resume Comparison

Discussion in 'Colorado Basketball Message Board' started by Buffnik, Mar 13, 2014.

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Which team should get the better tourney seed?

  1. Team 1

    2 vote(s)
    4.1%
  2. Team 2

    47 vote(s)
    95.9%
  1. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Team 1Team 2
    D1 Record20-1119-12
    Conf Record (P5)9-910-8
    vs Top 251-81-5
    vs Top 505-104-9
    vs Top 1007-118-11
    Losses vs 101+11
    Losses vs 201+00
    Non-Conference SOS18287
    Overall SOS5227
    RPI6157

    Are these tournament teams?

    Would you seed Team 1 or Team 2 higher?
     
  2. sweaty teets

    sweaty teets Club Member Club Member

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    missouri and cal?
     
  3. aik

    aik Club Member Club Member

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    Good thing I'm not the committee. These are both NIT resumes to me.
     
  4. Burrito Palazzo

    Burrito Palazzo huff my smug Club Member

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    Same resume, but one had a man's name and one had a woman's name. Man's name is selected for the dance. Woman's name stays home.

    Semper Gumby
     
  5. CUwhit21

    CUwhit21 Club Member Club Member

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    You got the school colors right with that first guess.
     
  6. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Lunardi's got Team 1 as an 8-seed and Team 2 missing the Dance.
     
  7. CVilleBuff

    CVilleBuff Club Member Club Member

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    As you said in another post, perception plays a far bigger role than anyone wants to admit.
     
  8. Denver_sc

    Denver_sc Club Member Club Member

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    I figured it out, but aik is right: these are both NIT resumes. If team one makes it... wow. I didn't realize how bad their resume is. Didn't even win a single game in their tournament. Team 2 didn't either.
     
  9. CVilleBuff

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  10. aik

    aik Club Member Club Member

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    That's foul. Nearly identical records but Team 2 scheduled better. Granted, they didn't play a lot of top teams but they still got some competition.

    I think the mythical 20 win line sways people so much versus a team with a 1 in front of their win total, even in this case where the difference is just one more win.
     
  11. Daaah

    Daaah Club Member Club Member

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    The conference record stat is not relevant if we don't know the conference.
     
  12. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Team 1 plays in the #2 RPI Conference.
    Team 2 plays in the #3 RPI Conference.

    To give an idea of relative conference strength:

    #1 Conference RPI = 0.5838
    #2 Conference RPI = 0.5764
    #3 Conference RPI = 0.5714
    #4 Conference RPI = 0.5671

    Not much deviation.
     
  13. Junction

    Junction Moderator Club Member

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    Might put in Team 2 because of SOS. Team 1 is NIT all the way.

    I will now read the rest of the thread to see how stupid I just made myself look.
     
  14. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Too tired. Who are these teams?
     
  15. aik

    aik Club Member Club Member

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    Based on conference RPI I'm guessing Kansas State and Cal, unless it's Iowa and Cal.
     
  16. rolandftw

    rolandftw Club Member Club Member

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    In many years, neither of those teams would be tournament teams. This year, you'd think, team 2 probably has a decent chance to get in.
     
  17. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    I was guessin similar. Iowa cant be that bad, right???
     
  18. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Team 1 = Iowa
    Team 2 = Cal
     
  19. Darth Snow

    Darth Snow Hawaiian Buffalo Club Member Junta Member

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    Wow. So bad
     
  20. aik

    aik Club Member Club Member

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    Just put them both in a play-in game and snub an SEC team. They can get us back when the College Football Playoff committee selects two of their teams in December.
     
  21. rolandftw

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    Iowa's RPI is 54 though. And their SOS is 29, not 52.
     
  22. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    Where are you looking? I'm on RealTime with the latest update (or latest at the time I posted).
     
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    http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html

    Weird there is such a big difference between them. I think yours more closely jive with cbssports and espn tho, so they are probably correct. My bad.

    Has Lunardi done an update since Iowa's loss?
     
  24. Buffnik

    Buffnik Real name isn't Nik Club Member Junta Member

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    I don't know. I didn't look at it this morning and his bracket isn't time stamped. So I don't know whether that's reflecting today's adjustments or not. Probably not, since there are only a handful of up or down arrows.
     
  25. aik

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    He's in his situation room having a panic attack.

    I do not envy those selecting and seeding this weekend. The middle of the pack teams from the major conferences are a jumbled mess of parity. Some schools are going to get in while their peers are going to be pissed wondering why those guys did and they did not.
     
  26. GoonieBuff

    GoonieBuff Not really Club Member

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    That was fun, thanks nik. That does a great job showing just how "off" the "experts" can be.
     
  27. CVilleBuff

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    Lunardi's last update came out in early evening at the latest. Iowa's game had definitely not gone final yet. Palm just released an update after midnight eastern (all games finished except Stanford/ASU) that has Iowa down to a 10 seed and CU up to an 8.
     
  28. CVilleBuff

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    Should just give every B1G team a bid, IMO.
     
  29. hokiehead

    hokiehead Gobbler on the Mountain Club Member

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    except for Iowa. I think this board is unified on that.
     
  30. CarolinaBuff

    CarolinaBuff Weekend Poster Club Member

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    This, and to take it further you need to look at who they beat and lost to in their respective conferences. With the unbalanced conference schedules these days a team can be 10-8 in a major conference but have no good wins in those 10.

    At face value I would agree with some of the others in that neither of these looks like a tournament-worthy resume, but then again you can't really say that without stacking them up against the other bubble teams out there. It's all relative.
     

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